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I don't know if the thread title was meant to be limiting, but the definition of SALARY that I found includes such things as "a fixed sum, paid at regular intervals, to an employee , especially for professional or clerical work ". From what I have gathered, the highlighted sections would be enough for many here at the 'fire to instantly answer by saying that anything at all would be overpayment since such people aren't really worth anything anyway, and if they should happen to be employed by a government agency they are despicable to boot.
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I've never quite figured out why some people think that if you work for a CEO - you are considered to be a shining example for others.
But - if you work in one of the areas where you work to help others - you are considered to somehow lack something.
The entrepreneurial types - are often motivated by greed.
Those in the service professions often do so - because they believe they actually help others.
Something that I believe - is easily as admirable.
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A lot of it what is high paid is totally where you live. I was down at the local PD a few years ago getting a pistol permit and they had a bulletin board with town positions advertised. I might be off 1K or 3K, but if UI remember
asistant Hr director 106K
starting pay town cop 91K
I really thought that the cop was over paid, but assistant HR for a town at 106K? no wonder I pay 9K in property tax on 2200SF 3 bedroom house
Well, my ex-wife is an HR director and makes a hellova lot more than that so for that position, I'd say it's low. You pay $9K in property taxes because you're crazy enough to do that for that home. Jeezh...I thought mine were pretty high. They're less than 1/3 of yours. Do you like it there that much? I like my income. It would be hard to make what I do where I wish I could live. We save a lot and hopefully at a point where I am still young enough to enjoy it I will move to someplace more rural and cheaper to retire. It seems the best I can do at this point.
The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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State CHP have PERS retirement that gives them 3% for each service year after they turn 50, with a cap at 90%. Bigger municipalities are similar.
Lets see start at 25 (3 year hitch in the military and 4 year degree. Start at $123K, work 30 years end up at what? $175K or 200K?, (better commute in from inland so you can live a little/lot cheaper) so at 55 you retire on 90% of 175/200K that works out to roughly $165K, do you also get to collect the max SS benefit too? Still a pretty good government check in a state where the average income is 44K.
The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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Approximately one dollar more than the person asking the question.... Exactly right!
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Should people like me (the privileged) pay a higher tax rate then those who earn less than me?
In my opinion - we should. Then by all means write that check to the government every year only don't compel us to do the same. Brilliant idea! Taxation by choice. So, can we count on you to write a check for more than you owe? Take yourself down to closer to their take-home pay by writing a tax check for the difference. Or are you like the typical liberal? All talk and no action? Willing to talk the talk but not walk the walk? After all, you obviously make more than is needed to survive in that area, and those "less priviledged" could sure use a hand. So, can we count on you to close that gap??
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I've never quite figured out why some people think that if you work for a CEO - you are considered to be a shining example for others.
But - if you work in one of the areas where you work to help others - you are considered to somehow lack something.
The entrepreneurial types - are often motivated by greed.
Those in the service professions often do so - because they believe they actually help others.
Something that I believe - is easily as admirable. Those entrepreneurial types are actually helping others - have jobs!
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I've never quite figured out why some people think that if you work for a CEO - you are considered to be a shining example for others.
But - if you work in one of the areas where you work to help others - you are considered to somehow lack something.
The entrepreneurial types - are often motivated by greed. Those that are entrepreneurial types I know and have worked with, work outside of government because theylike to accomplish things and despise the work environment where there is little reward for doing a good job as compared to being a warm-body. Those in the service professions often do so - because they believe they actually help others.
Something that I believe - is easily as admirable. Most government-type employees I know like their work because it is the epitome of a 9 to 3 job. No headaches or concerns after they clock out. No risk of not getting paid next week/month. Dang little to have to answer to or for. I hate generalizing, but there's reality and there's your view via your rose-tinted glasses.
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We should pay our taxes on what we spend and not on what we earn. Just my thought.
Soldiers are the only government employees that aren't overpaid. Just the opposite; they are grossly underpaid.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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[quote= Keep in mind that our population is growing older, which means fewer workers to fund pension liabilities. So where is money going to come from to fund public sector pension liabilities if our labor force is shrinking? WHAT?? So when all those old people retire nobody is going to take those jobs?? BS :-)
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