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Sad that you are just the other side of their coin, no different in your choice to use this tragic sad event to make your own statement about your political beliefs.
I can only speak for myself, but I don't consider fundamental liberty (the alternative being tyranny) to be a mere "political position." YMMV. Too many Americans have given their lives to preserve what you so callously dismiss as trivial. Politics or idealogy, this is not the thread to voice that. If anything transcends politics, the killing of small children qualifies. In the abstract, it's quite sad to contemplate the death of children, but how many children die each day? Far more important is the potential for exploitation by the left of tragedies like this in order to further rob us of that most precious jewel of liberty. You're a dick with no sense.
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Leave it to the media and pretty soon they will say George Bush was the shooter
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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anit that the truth......sad chit
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I can't believe the Media, Fox was interviewing a eight years old on the phone asking the kid what they saw and heard .
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Foxnews reporting that Ryan Lanza was NOT the shooter. Adam Lanza, age 20, the younger brother was the shooter. Report I see on Fox still identifies Ryan as the shooter. I saw another report that a brother was found dead in NJ, though? I now see that Fox has edited the story to name Adam instead of Ryan.
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I know, interviewing little kids for shock value, they should be ashamed. Also what parent lets their 8 year old talk to reporters about this type of thing, WTF.
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I know, interviewing little kids for shock value, they should be ashamed. Also what parent lets their 8 year old talk to reporters about this type of thing, WTF. Yep. I caught that and found it appalling. Phuggin media whores.
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I have a tough time wrapping my head around killing people/kids that I don't know. I can almost understand when shooter shoots bad guy 2 because they had issues but innocent kids and people?
There are some very sick F&*%# out there.
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The story will be so muddled by the end of the day that there will be 100 different versions of what happened.
So far i have heard the following reports.
2 shooters 1 shooter dead another in custody Only one shooter Ryan was the shooter No Adam Was the shooter Girlfriend is dead Girlfriend is missing Dad is dead Mom is dead at home Mom is dead at school Mom is still alive Brother is dead at another location 2 dead 20 dead 27 dead 26 dead 18 children and 8 adults dead Kindergarten class dead 1st grade class dead Shooter war body armor Shooter had bullet proof vest Shooter dressed in black
The fact is the ass holes will say anything they want, true or not, the end result will be that nobody will know what really happened. What a joke the media is these days.
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Foxnews reporting that Ryan Lanza was NOT the shooter. Adam Lanza, age 20, the younger brother was the shooter. Report I see on Fox still identifies Ryan as the shooter. I saw another report that a brother was found dead in NJ, though? I now see that Fox has edited the story to name Adam instead of Ryan. Hannity, on the radio, just had a local Fox reporter say that Ryan, the older, was the one dead in the school.Adam, the 20 YO was the one found in the woods outside "wearing camo trousers". It's not confirmed he ever entered the school.
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I have a tough time wrapping my head around killing people/kids that I don't know.
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It is all about making themselves a Media Star and Kids in Gun Free Zones like schools are easy and plentiful targets confined to a small area .
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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cnn commentator stressing the fact that we as a society must be aware of and to learn and recognise the signs of mental illness and violent anti-social behavior as the key to stopping this kind of thing before it happens. never even mentioned tighter gun control.....spot on
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I do want to add that these shooting all happen in gun free zones or states that don't have a concealed carry law.
Gun free zones are the same as putting rape free zone signs on college campuses. It looks good but doesn't do anything to stop violence.
ddj Your point is well taken. You would think with all the guns we have in Montana that there would be mass murders all over the place but there isn't.
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State Police News Conference just over:
18 children dead inside the school.Two more died at the hospital.
7 adults, including shooter, dead at the school.
One adult dead at "secondary crime scene", believed to be the mother.
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Foxnews reporting that Ryan Lanza was NOT the shooter. Adam Lanza, age 20, the younger brother was the shooter. Report I see on Fox still identifies Ryan as the shooter. I saw another report that a brother was found dead in NJ, though? I now see that Fox has edited the story to name Adam instead of Ryan. Hannity, on the radio, just had a local Fox reporter say that Ryan, the older, was the one dead in the school.Adam, the 20 YO was the one found in the woods outside "wearing camo trousers". It's not confirmed he ever entered the school. I'm sure the story will change a few more times before the details are finally sorted out.
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FoxNews continuing to report that Adam Lanza, age 20 was the shooter and that Ryan Lanza, age 24 is in custody and not a suspect. If accurate, then Ryan Lanza needs prayers and support as well. Both his parents were just killed by his brother.
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Shooter was the age that schizophrenia typically begins. Almost certain that this was a mental health issue. You studied mental illness and behavior in engineering school? You are qualified in psychodiagnostics? It is likely that the perp had a screw loose, but is unlikely that he was schizophrenic. Schizophrenics are seldom violent. In fact, mental illness, even serious mental illness is not a reliable predictor of violence. My guess is that the individual was an angry, fragile, self-absorbed, alienated type. I'm not sure what diagnosis that might entail in current diagnostic taxonomy. Perhaps he was just consumed by evil. Whether evil is mental illness has been a matter of some debate among psychiatrists. Paul
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I also am praying for the first responders. To witness that sort of carnage, especially children,will leave a lasting impression.
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