Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I'd be happy to see "Assault Weapons" disappear....

I have never owned a tactical weapon and likely never will unless we decay so much as a society that I need one. (At which point they will not be available).

However, despite the MASSIVE increases in the sales of "black guns" their use in violent crime has remained very low -- less than 2%. 9mm, 10mm and .380 handguns areused in about 70% of violent crimes.

Why? Those big bulky angular rifles don't stick in your waistband easily. They don't conceal. They are not practical. But they are lot of fun to go out shoot. Multiple targets, action shooting. They a FUN.

And they are rarely ever used in a crime.

BTW, I do not one a weapon. I own some firearms but refuse to call them weapons just because of the image that comes from the word.

I have started to talk about some of my friend's baseball weapons and assault golf weapons but all my guns are firearms.

I had the exact same experience on the day of the shooting. I'd had my eye on a Mini-14 "Tactical Model" for a few weeks, but was waiting till I was more flush with available cash to buy it (I was thinking February), but that plan changed on the day of the shooting. I went right out to find one that very evening.

The first two gun shops I went to, after checking their suppliers, said that there were literally no Mini-14 "Tactical Models" available from any of them, and both clerks said it was likely due to the shooting and them getting gobbled up immediately. I checked one other store, and they happened to have the exact model I was looking for on the shelf, just one left. I snatched it, along with four extra Ruger-made 30 round mags (it came with one 20 rounder).

11 years of highly publicized war, and movies and video games that are in synch with combat operations doesnt help.....but the truth is that it sells. My son is 15 years old, at age 11 he could identify "Black Rifles" at Sportsmans Warehouse and honestly I had no clue what they were, you can thank Call of Duty video games for that and we didnt even buy him those games when he was that little but a lot of his friends parents would.We are a very war minded society and it has a lot of appeal to the younger generations.I have to admit that it is very concerning, I too have been to gun ranges both here in Texas and in Alaska and when you see these kids in the early 20's dressed like they are preparing for a special operation in Fallujah Iraq with a 1/2 dozen 'Black Rifles" and semi autos' strapped to their thighs blasting away at Human shaped targets it is more than disturbing cuz it seems its always one of these detached young idots that spends all day drooling over the God damm things while playiing call of duty Black ops in a dark room that causes these tragic incidents!

Boltman: Do you really believe that an all out ban on "assault" weapons would have changed the outcome of what that guy went to do their Friday? If that is the case... that is disappointing.

I didn't think I wrote anything close to saying I thought there should be a ban or a ban would accomplish anything. In fact, quite the reverse - I think bans and threats of bans are a big part of the problem - which is the resulting reaction. I will say I wish a lot of the weapons that have been sold in the last 4+ years had not been sold. What I mean here is that I wish the poeple that were motivated to buy from panic - didn't feel panicky and hence made purchases on the basis of panic. The ensuing culture that results from panic is not an optimal one.

I want to see all Boltmans disappear.
There's enough superhero figures out there fighting crime and saving humanity that every time I encounter another Boltman I can't help but think of the redundancy factor and just shake my head.

It has come to the point with all these loathsome lippy libiots crusading in their capes to cage countless others over their own statistically insignificant fears of every little thing on God's green earth that I think the time has come to outlaw any and all comic strip characters for the good of mankind.

That or just tell them to pack their chit and move to a country that better reflects their view of how much little freedom a mommy/daddy government should afford its subjects.

Hell YES!
It would have made ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD in CT!

obviously...

when he went in and shot up all those school kids there would NOT have been an "assault" rifle in the trunk of his car parked out in the lot.

Look at it like this, those folks were concerned enough to get prepared to be responsible for their own well being and not dependent on someone else to take care of them. What's wrong with or bad about that?

hauling ass coyotes just missed buy a youngster with a bolt gun, too.

Huh?????

All the victims at the school were shot with a rifle, at least some of them up close, and all were apparently shot more than once, Chief Medical Examiner Dr. H. Wayne Carver said. There were as many as 11 shots on the bodies he examined.

Saw a kid at the local gun store pick up an AR, the look of sheer ectasy that came over his face would have been ok if he was fondling his first boob but I was somewhat disgusted. Maybe I felt something of the same when I picked up the Ithaca 37 Santa left me but I don't think so.

Mudhen,
an interesting article and one which at least seeks to shine a light on real problems. Gun owners also need to be more pro-active rather than just digging into their usual hard line defensive position. I think the NRA should consider helping to fund research programs and do so clearly and publicly.
As far as the assault rifle thing is concerned, I do think they almost reflect the reason for the 2nd Amendment. The Second Amendment isn't about guns, it's about liberty and the defence of liberty. The right to keep and bear arms is a defence against tyranny and oppression.
On the other hand, the misuse of any firearm is a threat to liberty so it is important for the pro-liberty, gun owning, population to make a serious effort to help stop this misuse.
There are times when this might mean supporting a Democratic initiative and, if the initiative makes sense, we need to support it.
I really think that, at some point, society has taken some wrong turns and we have to try and find our way back to the proper path.
Most of the perpetrators of crimes such as the one in Newtown are people who might be classified as "losers". If they could be identified earlier and steered right, they might be saved before they derail entirely. If we could do something to short curcuit the crime, we might not have to worry so much about losing our right to bear arms. GD

Facts are such pesky things.

This school massacre was not committed by a person using a gun. More children died than at Sandy Hook School. Note the date.

Insanity and evil have no bounds, nor time limits.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103186662

L.W.

The unrestricted avaiability of semi-automaitcs capable of accepting 20 and 30rd. magazines is the enabling factor in shooters in Aurora, CO, the Oregon mall and now the Conn. elementary school to do their horiffic deeds. Irresponsible individuals like the Conn. shooter's Mom did not secure her weapons where her menetally disturbed son could not access them.
I may not have thought much of Bill Clinton as man or as our President, but he was spot on when he said "I never saw an AK-47 in a duck blind". Weapons as I have described, call them "assault weapons" or whatever you want simply do not belong in the hands of other than the police and military. It is long past the time when this should be recognized and dealt with. GCA '68 was a knee jerk reaction to the assasination of RFK, it has done nothing that I can see to deny any 2A rights that I am aware of. How would those of you who cling so fervently to your assault weapons and your perceived right to own them feel if one of your loved ones were a victim of the shooters in Aurora, the Oregon Mall or the Connecticut elementary school?????????

here it comes,..

I'm starting to fart Rainbows here...

Holy Shyte.

I own a couple of black rifles. I own a few lever guns. I own some revolvers and some auto loading handguns. I own some shotguns and rimfires.

I have no plans to shoot anybody with any of them.

In that regard, I think I'm typical of all but an extremely tiny minority of gunowners.

I am a bit tired of this schit. Did your mommy cut the fingers off of your gloves for you? I do love the "how do I get the mag outta this thing" look. Not to mention the huge flinch when dropping the hammer on a empty chamber. Have seen a few Rambowannabes at our range. Good news is when the dumbphucks run outta money, you can buy their stuff for cheap.