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I was hoping someone could take the time to explain to me what it's function is, when did Remington stop using it, what is so bad about it, and what is involved in getting rid of it physically and expense wise.

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It is a gun lock device, used to render the rifle unable to be fired. So as to secure it from children or similar. I don't know when Remington dropped it. If you take the time to pull your striker assembly that is equipped with a j lock, you will see the firing pin spring compressed and distorted. Some say this doesn't help the trigger pull any, etc. The lock widget also looks goofy sticking out the side of the shroud, and locking devices themselves have no place on a firearm, in my opinion.

To replace, one orders an aftermarker assembly from Midway or similar, and screws it in place. No fuss, no muss. I've used the Callahan version and it worked great.


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It was designed to lock the firing mechanisum so the rifle couldn't be fired, for safety reasons should the firearm fall into the wrong hands (read children). The bigest drawback was the fact that it is possible to lock it with out using the small easily lost plastic key. Without the key it was a major pain to unlock. There are a few companies that make a replacement firing pin assembly prices vary somewhat but are fairly reasonable. Check Midways website for a fair represention. Changing it is pretty easy if you have a basic knowledge of firearm disassembly and reassembly.

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They probably dropped it because

A) it made for a lousy trigger pull

B) customers hated it


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Originally Posted by quarterboredave
Without the key it was a major pain to unlock.


A pard and I did it in 45 seconds flat after one look...with a paper clip...

FWIW..I was resourceful as a kid too...


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Originally Posted by 89tenbus
I was hoping someone could take the time to explain to me what it's function is, when did Remington stop using it, what is so bad about it, and what is involved in getting rid of it physically and expense wise.

Thanks in advance


Complete DEBACLE !!!!!!!!!.......must replace the firing pin assembly (firing pin, spring, bolt shroud and cocking piece), have found Gretan to be the best replacements.

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It's a relic left over from the Klintoon years. You can knock them out and replace it with a normal one from Brownell's.


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I have several...

all I did was move them to the unlocked position after I got the rifle.. and essentially threw the key away...

never been a problem after that...


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I second the GreTan.


Third.


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Originally Posted by Seafire
I have several...

all I did was move them to the unlocked position after I got the rifle.. and essentially threw the key away...

never been a problem after that...


The trigger in combination with a J-Lock are horrid in my experience.


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I replaced them on two of mine. Another annoying "feature" was that when you rotated the bolt handle to extract a round/cock the firing piece, the distorted spring would rub on the inside of the bolt go "sproing".


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Worrying about the J-lock is a waste of time. I did the same thing as Seafire with my J-lock rifles and never a problem. A competent smith can work magic with the triggers too. Mine are all at about 3 pounds and I've never heard a "sproing" yet. mtmuley

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Originally Posted by mtmuley
Worrying about the J-lock is a waste of time. I did the same thing as Seafire with my J-lock rifles and never a problem. A competent smith can work magic with the triggers too. Mine are all at about 3 pounds and I've never heard a "sproing" yet. mtmuley


WOW you and Seafire must never have taken out your J-Lock firing pin assemblys out of your bolt.......if you did you would discover it is the human equivalent of Down's Syndrome, OBVIOUS that something is not right from the start.

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That curled up piece of junk that is the spring on the j-lock equipped bolts rubs on the inside of the bolt and makes lift harder than it should be. Change it and you will feel the difference.

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I have a pair of ADLs with them on it... I adjusted the triggers on both...

neither one have a benchrest trigger, that's for sure..

but neither is the accuracy any thing to complain about, especially the 223...


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I hve an 870 with something similar too. Pain in the arse.


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