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Years ago I saw of listing over caliber cartridges that would chamber behind lesser caliber barrels. If anyone has a copy, it would be a most informative post. Is this what your talking about? http://www.saami.org/specifications...afe_Arms_and_Ammunition_Combinations.pdf
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You're kidding me. You are NOT supposed to fire a 9mm Luger in a 357 Sig??? Ain't nothin' sacred?
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Prayers to a speedy recovery for your friend.
I am skeptical that a .308 Winchester round would have contact with the firing pin, unless the rifle captured the head, i.e. controlled round feed as in pre 64 Winchesters. I am not an expert but since the cartridge headspaces on the shoulder it could be a little too far forward to receive a good blow from the firing pin...
Also, the .308 Win is quite a bit shorter than a .270 Win. and is obviously not a good match, but mistakes do get made...
Just some thoughts from afar, I am not familiar with the S&W 1500 rifle.
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.270 and .30-06 are basically the same case, except for neck dia.
I know some people who have tried to re-chamber a .308 to .30-06.
A .30-06 reamer will not clean up a .308 chamber, unless the barrel is set back. There is a slight shoulder left in the chamber, near the location of the .308 shoulder. Body taper might be a little different, too.
So, this makes it sort of unlikely that a .308 was fired in the rifle, as I posted above, unless a lot of pressure was applied to chamber the .308
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.308s will fire in a .270 . The body taper of the .308 will stop it at the same point in the chamber as where a .270 cartridges shoulder stops it . I have worked on two rifles that had this happen to them , and have heard of several others . It doesn't happen often , as most people have enough sence to use the right ammo . Your bud has a little more to learn about guns evidently ! I hope he doesn't pay too high of a price for his mistake .
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.308s will fire in a .270 . The body taper of the .308 will stop it at the same point in the chamber as where a .270 cartridges shoulder stops it . I have worked on two rifles that had this happen to them , and have heard of several others . It doesn't happen often , as most people have enough sence to use the right ammo . Your bud has a little more to learn about guns evidently ! I hope he doesn't pay too high of a price for his mistake . Interesting. I shouldn't be surprised. I knew they had a problem with the short mags early on, being able to chamber a .300 in a 7mm and such. Good to know. Makes sense since the parent cartridge is the same from the rim forward.
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This recall is for the iBolt.....the gun in question is the 1500 that is/was manufactured by Howa and is also called the Howa 1500 and the Weatherby Vanguard (I think). My thoughts are with your friend and his family! He might be lucky to "just" lose an eye! Scary stuff! Chris These are ALL made by Howa.
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Regarding shooting glasses, I was thinking the same thing. I sometimes wear them during recreational shooting, but never during hunting, except pheasant hunting. Are there any shooting glasses that are head and shoulders above the rest? thanks I run oakley glasses as my shooting glasses. All of the lenses are ansi tested and they are used by the military for this same purpose. check out their website and watch the ansi testing the spike test and the fired object test(round ball) really get you thinking of what can and does happen if improper eye protection is worn. I even use my oakleys while cutting the lawn and weed whacking. My echo weed eater can really sling some stuff. I watched a small rock coming right at my face this past summer and tried to pull a Matrix move to get out of the way and the rock still smacked my oakley lense. plus at work I have had multiple pieces of 40 s&w bounce off my oakleys. I would have been in the hospital from that rock if I chose not to have the oakleys on that day. It hit dead center in the lense.
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I don't think the body taper stops it so much as the larger bullet getting jamed into the neck of the chamber. Same results either way, primer/base held firmly againt the bolt face. Ouch!
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You're kidding me. You are NOT supposed to fire a 9mm Luger in a 357 Sig??? Ain't nothin' sacred? Scarily enough I had somebody do this with a pistol of mine. Ran a whole clip of 9mm's thru a glock 357 sig. He said it sounded funny and "kicked weird" but out of 12 rounds 9 of them fired. Nobody lost anything and the gun still works fine. What is that they say about god watching over fools?
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You can add do not fire 6.5x47 Lapua in rifles chambered in 243 win. Some guy came to shoot on my range one day. He picked up one of my loaded rounds to examine it while he had a hand full of 243 rounds in his other hand. He sat down one of his 243 rounds and took my 6.5x47 rounds out of my reloading room, took it out to my bench, and fired it. Leaves an interesting no neck case.
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