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Tell me what you can about this cartridge: I'm looking at a post-war '03 fat-barrel gun.
Where did it come from, who wrote about it and when, and is it truly a .30-30 wildcat (therefore rimmed) cartridge in a '03 bolt?
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"Improved Cartridge Loading" cartridges were a line of wildcats originated by the Juenke brothers when they owned the Saturn gun shop in Sparks, NV.
I know nothing about that cartridge and haven't been to Saturn since 1970 or 1971.
"Good enough" isn't.
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Yes. This gun came from their shop.
Nailed it! Nailed it better professing your further ignorance, which I thought I was better at.
We remain mutually and admittedly ignorant. Blissfully perhaps!
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As somebody said, a man oughta know his limitations.
"Good enough" isn't.
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Don't cut yourself short: You gave ICL interpretation, and Saturn reference. More than I had.
As a boy that rode his Shetland Pony in the Winnemucca, Nevada Centennial Parade (1964), you gave me a piece of my Nevada I did not have.
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Tahnka,
My Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions lists the cartridge in question. As stated it is based on the .30-30 Win or .219 Zipper. Minimal body taper and a 38 deg shoulder. A case length of 2.01" ; neck length of: .298" ; and length from base to shoulder of 1.63"
Only one load is listed: 50 gr. bullet with 30 gr. of IMR-4895 for a velocity of: 3575 f.p.s.
Pretty potent lil' number, eh? But sadly it can be beaten by the .22/250 quite easily with factory loads... You can read more about it in P.O. Ackley's book, Vol. 1...
GH
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