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Not something I have experienced.


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Originally Posted by 7mmaniac
I never see them selling that cheap.


They don't sell much at all except to kids just old enough to hunt.


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Originally Posted by postoak
How would you rate the following bolt actions (as they're being produced today) for quality:

Browning X-bolt, Winchester Model 70, Remington 700, Ruger 77, Sako Tika T3, Cz 550.

Quality meaning: fit, finish, accuracy, good design features.


Ranking my own interest:

Browning == No Interest
Winchester == Yes, but only if mfg by FN
Remington == Much more interested in used than new
Ruger == Yes!!!
Tikka == More than some
CZ == Ambivalent/Not too much


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Oh ? The gas venting system on a 98 Mauser doesn't work ? I think you are confusing them with the pre-64 winchesters. Or maybe the Springfield actions. E

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I don't think so. I was reading some of the comments in the "Bolt action and gas leaks" thread" and the 98 didn't sound very safe in the event of a case failure. Maybe I'm reading this stuff wrong...

"My one experience with a commercial Mauser 98 action was with a FN .270, which supposedly has several faults, including the "H-ring" in the front of the action and the lack of thumb slot in the left receiver wall. But I still only got peppered very lightly on the left side of my face, from my eyebrow to my cheek, so my guess is that the flanged bolt sleeve is the major protection from gas leakage."


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You read it wrong.


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Only experience I have had with a '98 in this regard was at the range two years ago. A guy was shooting his .300 win mag when a case ruptured. It blew with sufficient force to bow the bottom metal, but the action and barrel held. The shooter had gas blown into the left side of his face, as stated above, with sufficient force to punch what appeared to be several gas-cut holes in his face. He and his partner threw their gear in the truck and headed to the hospital.

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Is the 98 the best then at protecting the shooter ?

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The Weatherby Vanguard in 270 Winchester is the most accurate
rifle I own. Compared to 3 pre 64 model 70,s and 2 Ruger
M77,s and one 760 Remington pump.

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Not on the OP's list.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
My tastes run to Waffenfabrik Mauser, Oberndorf Mauser, 1950's era Brno 2, 5, 465, 21, 47, and early Sako, Browning,and LSA series Tikka...and at a pinch, '70s/'80s Remington 40XBR.

But you fellows should all chase the new shiny stuff because it is so much better made and fitted.


I like your taste! If I had enough play money, my list/collection would be similar. As it is, I've settled on CZ as my primary choice if I buy new.

Even though the ones in bold are rimfire, they are excellent! Do you have a 1950's BRNO Model 5? I acquired a Model 5 from 1970, which is a transitional rifle (BRNO receiver/CZ barrel). Still nice, but not 1950's nice!

Originally Posted by postoak
How would you rate the following bolt actions (as they're being produced today) for quality:

Browning X-bolt, Winchester Model 70, Remington 700, Ruger 77, Sako Tika T3, Cz 550.

Quality meaning: fit, finish, accuracy, good design features.


As for the OP's list, it's tough to put them in one list because the action types are different. I would rank them by catagory as such:

Modern Mauser:
1. Winchester M70
2. CZ550
3. Ruger M77

I honestly see #'s 1 & 2 being equals in quality, although teh Winchester is significantly more expensive. I don't think Ruger is bad at all, but just not quite as good as the others. I do see them as being smoother out of the box than CZ, but the reason for that is that it has much looser tolerances.

Other:
1. Sako
2. Tikka
3. Browning
4. Remington


Personally, I use a CZ550 American in .30-06 and have no real complaint other than it's hefty (because of which I supplemented it with a CZ527 in 7.62x32). However, it shoulders, handles and shoots very well, but the thing that really sets the CZ apart from the others is the trigger. Many non-owners complain about and berate it, but actual owners & users, praise it.

I've only played with the ones on the other list (except with the M700), so I don't have ownership knowledge of them. I will say that older M700's are pretty nice, but the current crop are finished as cheaply as possible and it shows. I wouldn't spend my money on one.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
My tastes run to Waffenfabrik Mauser, Oberndorf Mauser, 1950's era Brno 2, 5, 465, 21, 47, and early Sako, Browning,and LSA series Tikka...and at a pinch, '70s/'80s Remington 40XBR.

But you fellows should all chase the new shiny stuff because it is so much better made and fitted.


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If I could find one over here I would have one...they go for obscene amounts.


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Wish they still made those 1900's. Smoothest factory action I've ever felt.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
If I could find one over here I would have one...they go for obscene amounts.


Where exactly is "over here"?

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Wish they still made those 1900's. Smoothest factory action I've ever felt.


That's the large ring if I remember right. I like the 1640 action (small ring) more.

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The one I was referring to is this one made in the early 70's. I think they were called the 8000/9000 in the USA. I have two of them.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
If I could find one over here I would have one...they go for obscene amounts.


Where exactly is "over here"?


Australia.


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