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Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill. Where did you come up with that info?
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I'll borrow this pic of a Manners light fill. The fill material (the white colored fill) used in the Edge and in Manner's lighter stocks is not as solid as that in standard fills. Manners acknowledges this and at least uses the more solid, durable fill in critical areas (the gray colored fill material). I found a bubble in the paint of my most recent edge. After I removed the paint I didn't like what I found. I made several calls to men who bed these stocks day in and day out and found out that this was not unusual and the reason they all preferred standard fill. Manners with standard fill in critical areas: My last Edge, around the rear action screw pillar. I believe Manners is using their heavy fill behind the rear action screw, the same place where I have a void. It doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
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EDGE isn't merely a fill material it is a complete package of fill material and shell construction. All of my EDGE stocks have been every bit as stiff and solid as my standard construction McMillans have been. No more standard construction McMillans for me ever. But then my tolerance for recoil stops at the .300WSM/.300WM level.
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Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill. Most respected smiths I've talked to shy away from it. I had a situation that definitely gave me reason to doubt in them. Edge is a slam dunk only if you intend to weigh your rifle and not use it. thanks for the laugh..
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Here's something else to chew on: SL on the Xtreme Hunter. Mainly due to the increased strength. 3 oz weight difference was not worth it to sacrafice the rugedness.
These New EH serries stocks are really nice but the fill is seriously ultra light. Im still a fan of the 90% CF shell and std light fill its indestructable!!!!
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My last Edge, around the rear action screw pillar. I believe Manners is using their heavy fill behind the rear action screw, the same place where I have a void. It doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling. Send it back to McMillan and they'll fix it. Or keep it and complain. Your choice.
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Toad, did you see the pics?
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Looks like you prefer the second option.
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nsaqam, please show me where I complained? I fixed it myself. I called around to guys who see more in a week than I do in years and was told its not unusual for edge fills but highly unusual in standard fills.
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Looks like you prefer the second option.
TFF!! Dude, you are dreaming. I have never complained. Only reported facts.
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You've been complaining about the void this entire thread. Why'd you fix it yourself when McMillan would've done it for free?
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Looks like you prefer the second option.
TFF!! Dude, you are dreaming. I have never complained. Only reported facts. In your sample of one? That's certainly conclusive.
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nsaqam
1 - please quote where I complained
2 - I fixed it because I can, and it was a lot less hassle than sending it back.
3 - you are absolutely correct. My sample of one was not enough. Thats why I made calls to guys (reputable gunsmiths) who see a lot more than me. All three that I talked to preferred standard fill because of experiencing similar issues with the Edge fill.
4 - What do you make of George's post that I quoted above? In regards to Manners, even standard fill in critical areas is not enough for George.
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Call three more and they may tell you differently.
George is entitled to his opinion as are you and I.
You say it's not complaining posting pics and relating your experience with one EDGE. I say it is. The opinion thing once again.
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Call three more and they may tell you differently.
George is entitled to his opinion as are you and I.
You say it's not complaining posting pics and relating your experience with one EDGE. I say it is. The opinion thing once again. But with Tikka it's not?
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Of course it is.
That does not change the FACT that all synthetic T3's use the luggette, a long action, a cheap feeling IM stock, a protruding magazine, a plastic shroud, a dovetailed bolt handle, a plastic TG, and use expensive replacement parts.
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Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill. Most respected smiths I've talked to shy away from it. I had a situation that definitely gave me reason to doubt in them. Edge is a slam dunk only if you intend to weigh your rifle and not use it. BWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA!!!
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Whats is your take on it? Are Edge stocks as durable as standard fill stocks, in your opinion?
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I'm very comfortable using edge stocks within the parameters set by McMillan.
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Be cool to see a strength test using one of each. I'll supply the truck if someone supplies the Edge & McSwirly.
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