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TD, nice buck man! Great work!
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Thanks man - how are those comp dies working out for you?
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I Scenar'd this fellow earlier last fall. While punched through both lungs, he took a few minutes to die. Autopsy showed that it passed through with about a .8" exit - both lungs had same size hole in them and very little evident trauma. No ribs or other bones hit. (Impact vel. ~ 2300) I think a bit more velocity and hitting bone or thicker critter hide would be perfect. Probably use this bullet again this year outta a '06. That's not a very large wound for a broadside shot! I shot a large whitetail broadside at 280 yards with the 30-06 using Bergers 155 gr VLD 'hunting' bullet. The estimated impact velocity is 2000 fps. The exit wound was very large and the buck died quickly. I am not saying that the VLD I used is an 'all around' bullet. From what I know of it and similar bullets I would not take a raking shot with it.
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Thanks man - how are those comp dies working out for you? I totally messed up and got a case stuck in the sizer, so it's got to be sent back to RCBS because I've exhausted my resources The seater is fantastic.
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Why don't you just use a stuck case remover and do it yourself? RCBS sells a kit for cheap. You can also make your own.
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Because there is a broken Tap inside the stuck case... Don't ask me how the Tap broke.
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That's very interesting. My theory is that the front of the Scenars shears off or breaks up and allows the back 2/3's to penetrate quite well. Sort of like a Barnes X that looses it's petals. What apparently also happens is that they stay on course when they do their killing. In sharp contrast to the Bergers perhaps, but work they odviously do. E
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Because there is a broken Tap inside the stuck case... Don't ask me how the Tap broke. Not an issue. Just use the kit to get the decapping/expander ball assembly out of the die, and then you use a steel rod (included in the kit) to smack the stuck case out of the die body. Tap or no tap, it'll pound out just fine.
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Because there is a broken Tap inside the stuck case... Don't ask me how the Tap broke. All been there brother Glad to hear the seater is working - it's a slick set-up
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Anybody care to share their 30-06 load data? Mine shoots great with a stiff charge of H4350.
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Mine likes a stiff charge of H4350 as a well, say 60-61 grs. 58 grs. of Ramshot Big Game works a bit better, however. Winchester and Hornady cases. E
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I've only chrono'd 3 so far. Averaged 3140fps with 61grs. H4350
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I've only killed three animals with the 155gr Scenar so far, All launched from my .308 at a MV of about 2865. Initial impressions are that it is a MUCH harder bullet than a Berger Hunting VLD or Ballistic Tip and that internal damage is not nearly as severe. Shot this sow at about 125 yards. Bullet the bullet through the boiler room. Exit wound was not huge. Blood trail was minimal. She ran about 100 yards. With Hunting VLDs, I usually don't get an exit on pigs of this size, but they also usually don't make it more than a few steps. Shot this youngster the same morning at 165 yards. He was facing me straight on and I put a bullet in the center of his chest. DRT. Bullet exited vicinity of his hips. Exit wound was not much larger than bullet diameter. Shot this buck opening day this year. He was a hair over 300 yards, slightly quartering away. I put the bullet in the last rib on the near side. It exited the front part of the opposite shoulder, center punching the heart en route. The exit wound was very small and there was no blood trail to speak of. The buck ran 40 - 50 yards. Internal damage was minimal to every thing but the heart, which was nearly split in two. The 155gr Scenars have been VERY easy to get to shoot well, easier for me than is typical with the Hunting VLD, but, so far, I much prefer the on-game performance of the Hunting VLDs or Nosler Ballistic Tips. I'll probably use the Scenars on critters some more, but will likely try to center punch shoulders when doing so. John
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I have 2 .308's and I am interested in loading the 155 Scenar bullits. I have been reading the results of all the hunting experience with them with little info. on load data. I also shoot a 30/06 but mainly the .308's get the most attention. Can some of you share your load data? I have a supply of most of the appropriate powders for a .308. Was wondering if 8208XBR would be good with the 155 Scenar. Most of you have far more experience with the lighter bullet than I do. I manly shoot 16 - 175 gr. in mine. Both are Rem. 700 Varmint contour 24" and 26" barrels. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. ... LARRY
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Larry, If you will look backwards a few days you will see my experience from Nov 01 of this year on cow elk. Long story short, 325yds, 155 Secnar at 2930, dead elk, but no exit wound. I did not hit bone. The bullet was placed in the crease behind the right front shoulder and was found between the hide and the muscle on the opposite side. My load was 46.5 gr of 4064. Super accurate, was an easy load to work . I just probably wont use the 155 again for elk, I like an exit wound. Bill
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I bought a used 700 308 from pat for my boy. He had the load data for it and I used it. 45.5 grains of varget and 155 grain scenars. Maximum oal. This chronos right at 2800fps. Shoots very tight groups. My boy shot a big mulie with it at 320yds.through both lungs and a 2inch hole out the shoulder. The buck hobbled about 60 yards and he shot him again. Bullet hit about 4inches back from the first one.not as big of an exit hole, as it did not hit a rib going out. These bullets expand fine, but are thicker jacketed than bergers. Excellent accuracy.
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Too bad they don't make a 7mm!! Yeah, what's up with that??!!
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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