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It's pretty much a no loose choice. But what the hell. 1. Shiloh is at least as good as CSharps and maybe better, definitely not worse. 2. For service - ditto above 3. For resale - ditto above 4. Shiloh donates more rifles to shooting matches as prizes, donates a rifle to a lucky American veteran annually 5. Shiloh raffles rifles from time to time to support other good causes that they choose to assist with. 6. CSharps probably does some of that same charitable work but it's not so obvious. Perhaps because they are a smaller outfit but ...
It's really really hard to not jump for a Shiloh, unless you find a significant price difference in the particular configuration you are looking for.
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I have a Shiloh on order. Their workmanship is excellent.
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For me it is C. Sharps Arms all the way. C. Sharps does donate rifles at matches too, they donated a rifle for a youth at Quigley. Delivery time at C. Sharps is much faster and they've always been much more willing to talk to me, explaining what they offer. C. Sharps Arms uses Badger barrel and that's is a good positive thing to say. And, in addition to their Model of 1874, C. Sharps Arms also has the High Wall and the Hepburn plus their 1875 Sharps. You get more options with C. Sharps Arms.
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Thanks 303. I did not know that about CSharps.
They are both great rifles. You really can't go far wrong here.
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The C sharps stocks are a bit "fuller" than the Shiloh. As to quality no real difference. Best to own at least one of each. My personal preference is for Shiloh, but that's got more to do with the stocks feel better and fit me better than my C Sharps does.
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Pro/Con me on the Big Timber makers. Shiloh...Montana Roughrider, .45-70, 30" bbl, MVA Mid-Range Soule, Hadley Eyecup, Globe Front sight w/level. Ed
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What are you wanting to do with it?
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What are you wanting to do with it?
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I've never heard of a Shiloh owner parting with a rifle to acquire a C Sharps or Pedersoli (sp?). Folks often take the reverse route though.
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Hey Ranch, Your comment about the stocks surprises me just a little. Back when you were running around Fort Bridger, C. Sharps Arms was the custom shop for Shiloh and their custom stocking was superb. It still is. And I do have a Shiloh too, it's one of their early percussions. We'll have to shoot it sometime. And Brent, let me say "You're welcome." Both Shiloh and C. Sharps are great rifles. If you want to drool a bit, look at the C. Sharps website in their "in stock gallery" at the guns just wanting for buyers. No waiting time for those.
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There are three of us I know of just several weeks from delivery after almost a two year wait,all three are Shilohs.
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Does John Schoffstahl still own C. Sharps? Or, did he finally sell it? Awhile back,I remember seeing ads that C. Sharps was for sale.
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I have it on good authority it's still for sale and has been for quite some time.
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Mike, there's a slight differences in the wrist especially the pistol gripped guns, and in the forearm's, and a big difference in the cheek piece on models so equipped. Still very hard to go wrong with either rifle, and a person really needs one of each.
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I've never heard of a Shiloh owner parting with a rifle to acquire a C Sharps or Pedersoli (sp?). Folks often take the reverse route though. I know a fella that sold off a quite extensive number of Shiloh's and replaced them with C Sharps, and he keeps saying "this one is the last one", but.... seems like about once or twice a year he's going on about just getting back from picking this rifle up at C Sharps....
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com
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Flyboy, That sounds like a long wait to me. Last year I went off of the deep end and ordered two 74's from C. Sharps Arms, both with custom features. I already have them both and I'm very pleased with those rifles.
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If you really want to see the difference, tour both places. There is not near as much to behold at C. Sharps. On the other hand, if you visit Shiloh, you can see every aspect of the production of the rifle from start to finish. Shiloh manufactures all their own parts, including the receivers/barrels.
C. Sharps does sell a nice rifle, Shiloh builds a nicer rifle. There is a reason for the wait on a Shiloh and it isn't because they are slow. Demand has everything to do with the availability and Shiloh leads that category.
I could own either, I have more than 1 Shiloh, no C. Sharps. If someone gave me a C.Sharps, however, I wouldn't throw it away...
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Guys,
FYI, Badger Barrel no longer exists so C Sharps can't be using Badger barrels unless they have some old blanks in stock.
In 2009 the assets of Badger Barrels were acquired by the Principals of Airtronic USA. The company was renamed Badger Defense, LLC and continued to supply barrels for various US military weapons and also to nations friendly to the United States. In 2012 Wilson Arms Co. purchased all the assets of Badger Defense Company, formerly known as Badger Barrels. The new facility is now known as The Wilson Arms Company � Bristol (Bristol, Wisconsin). Wilson Arms Co. is a high volume barrel supplier with minimum order requirements of 100 barrels.
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