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I simply can't see how you can cast dispersion on Ed's character.

OUCH!

I bet that stung a little!

Those two cops were cowards, theres cowards in all walks of life, I know several but I don't know any cops that are cowards.

I think you must be in the minority among policemen in that sense of offense connected to the term.

I have no problem with policemen operating under the guideline whereby they are not bound to render assistance, so long as they are honest about it, i.e., so long as they don't intentionally create the impression with the public that reality is otherwise. Most folks pay their taxes contributing to your salary with the explicit understanding (created by slogans on police cars, for example) that they are paying for protection from criminals. Perhaps if the police were more honest about this sort of thing more people would be demanding the right to carry the means of self-defense.

The cops who watched this take place were Black , this should tell you something about why he received no help from them.

I've been around this business for quite a while and once in a blue moon, you'll run up on one.

I've personally seen one drive in the opposite direction while we were headed to a shooting, and heard another call in a "flat tire" while there was lead in the air.

Like Josey Wales said. "A man's gotta know his limitations."

No outfit is perfect, so long as it is comprised of humans.

Good Lord, brother, we could go on for hours about the effect affirmative action has had on the product that gets turned out.

Hawk, thanks for that history lesson. I never knew how that term came to be. Personally, I never viewed the term in a derogatory nature.

From some past mis-information I had associated the word 'cop' with "constable on patrol". Here is some information that clarifies that misconception along with the copper badge misconception;
http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/cop.asp

Don't ever take offense at my use of the word "cop" as my understanding of it came from the word "copper' as in the gangster days when badges were copper.

I'll try to change but I am old and set in my ways.

Is it your opinion that employing argumentum ad hominem is a mark of good character, or do you agree with me that it's a mark of poor character? That's all that matters. After that, it's only a question of whether the shoe fits.

You do understand that we don't sit around the coffee pot and come up with snappy slogans to put on our cars. The political appointees up the chain, who work for the Governor, or the Mayor do that kind of horse$hit.

I guess we could be a little more forthcoming with folks and take out a few radio ads. Something along the lines of: "Hi, this is officer friendly. In recent years, the political climate has changed to the degree that my fellow officers and I can no longer effectively guarantee your personal safety. We'd love to be of assistance if we can, however, with the poor support we receive from our superiors and lawmakers, we feel its best to tell you to wear your running shoes at all times. That way, when you shoot your little .380 empty, you can run for your life."

I'm not against that. Per Se.

No sir, that's my opinion of Ed's character after having conversations with him, and your character after having discussions with you.

None taken, friend.

You're right. I am wrong. It was wrong of me to resort to employing argumentum ad hominem. I apologize for that.

You are what you are, and I am what I am.

I try to stay away from these threads for they are nothing but emotional arguments that bear only marginal resemblance to a reasonable discussion. I failed at that self-imposed rule this morning.

Ed

Coppers in Australia refer to themselves as cops...and the public refer to them as cops, it not derogatory here just a title.

Just like you lot being a pack of Yanks....even the Southerners.

Must be a northeastern thing not to be offended by it nor to see it as offensive.

OUCH! That really hurts!
Hope your day is a good one, sir.

It is 2.50 am and quiet here, you have a good one CT.

Regards.

No matter whether they were black, red, brown or white.........

Anyone using the guise of the letter of the law of no obligation to protect, doesn't deserve to wear a badge, whether it be NYC of Podunk, KY.

With the badge comes a moral obligation; if one cannot accept that, then he should look for another line of work, period.

I think most LEO's who post here are more than willing to accept that obligation but I can't understand making any kind of excuse, either legal-ease, or not for not penalizing the kind of behavior of the 2 NYC cops in this case...........& to get the full impact of the story, you must watch the entire video clip.

What I can say with certainty, is if that very same thing had happened to lots of folks that I know, at some point in time, those two "officers" would likely have simply disappeared.

MM

Perhaps we were raised with a different set of values, then. I was raised to believe that such tactics indicated a paucity of honor.