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~50-65 bucks a piece...
Yowch.
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the ones made of wooden stakes and neon surveyor's ribbon are quite affordable
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that's what I use. If you want to get high tech, get some of the plastic sticks for propping up garden plants.
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If you REALLY want to be extravagant, you can use a $4.00 metal fence pole with your orange surveyor's tape, but be warned, you might have to replace the tape every 6 months or so. I think the little birdies use it for making nests.
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Even more expensive when you consider you need tri-pods to put them on.
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Spotshooter: Back when I had to work for a living and could not choose my times/days to shoot I had a variety of portable wind indicators. I made them all myself in a variety of styles, shapes, sizes and they were all made of salvaged (free!) materials like sheet aluminum, tubular metal, ribbons and yarn and a few garden type wind wheels. I have been retired for 16 years now and never shoot for group and load testing on a "moving air" day anymore! On the rare occassion when I have an immediate need for a range test, and there is moving air, I just drive to my friends 107 yard long "tunnel" range - no moving air in there. I would not even consider paying the current prices I have seen for a moving air indicator (wind flag). I do have a wind gauge for use afield when Hunting Varmints and Big Game - these aren't cheap either. I would rather spend my money on rimfire ammo and components for my centerfires (when I can find any!). Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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There is certainly some merit to a more elaborate wind flag that can give you a better indication of actual wind speed, since bullet drift differs between a 5mph wind and a 12 mph wind.
I used the surveyor�s tape on wooden dowels stuck in the ground. If one has a benchmark of wind speed to gauge their variation from hanging straight down (vertical) one could calibrate that to actual wind speed.
For reference, I use 2� long tape and my calibrations came out: 30-40 degrees from vertical � Hey, it�s almost dead calm today. 45-60 degrees from vertical � It�s pretty windy today. 60-90 degrees from vertical - Holy sh*t, that damn wind is blowing today. 90 degrees and snapping � Well, do I waste my ammo today or not? Wind flag blows away into the next county � Screw it, time to go home.
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That sounds about right for Idaho wind!
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I received wind speed gauging training ( although I didn't pay much attention to it) on range flags in the military, I did pay attention the second time when I was learning High Power competition.
But I was referring to what bench rest commercial flags cost...
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PM Sent. Don't laugh, but the shooter who used this rig won at least one BPCR silhouette national championship. I took this pic positioned next to him and his partner at the smallbore version of that game. Paul
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thought this was interesting:
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It's always fun to see a fellow with a sense of humour take a swipe at the people that take themselves too serious. And it's not a bad thing that those same folks are usually the ones that think you can buy your way into the winner's circle.
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I might be out of my pay grade, but if you're referring to 16bore's wind value chart, I don't think it's a joke. I know I've seen such things, but never bothered to study them enough to get a good grasp on how they work. My deficiency.
Maybe somebody with a better understanding of how they work could clarify.
Paul
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There is certainly some merit to a more elaborate wind flag that can give you a better indication of actual wind speed, since bullet drift differs between a 5mph wind and a 12 mph wind.
I used the surveyor�s tape on wooden dowels stuck in the ground. If one has a benchmark of wind speed to gauge their variation from hanging straight down (vertical) one could calibrate that to actual wind speed.
For reference, I use 2� long tape and my calibrations came out: 30-40 degrees from vertical � Hey, it�s almost dead calm today. 45-60 degrees from vertical � It�s pretty windy today. 60-90 degrees from vertical - Holy sh*t, that damn wind is blowing today. 90 degrees and snapping � Well, do I waste my ammo today or not? Wind flag blows away into the next county � Screw it, time to go home. I remember a project in Boys' Life where you made a cut-out of the Boy Scout Burro, then applied a tail made of string or some such to be used as a weather indicator. If the tail was wet, it was raining. If it was dry, it wasn't. If it was moving, it was windy. If it blew away, it was stormy.
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If you want to learn to read wind flags or a windicator you should find an IBS shoot and go, they are some pretty good flag readers there. I like the windicator better than the flags. they sure do work, when you are trying to shoot a 1/16 dot at 100yrds.
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I might be out of my pay grade, but if you're referring to 16bore's wind value chart, I don't think it's a joke. I know I've seen such things, but never bothered to study them enough to get a good grasp on how they work. My deficiency.
Maybe somebody with a better understanding of how they work could clarify.
Paul No, I was referring to the wind flags made from a can and plastic bag.
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