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It would be interesting. But anyone know what motor? Unless I missed it, article didn't say.
And reasonable price is subjective. I don't make the kind of money that would allow me to buy any new vehicle. But I'd guess $10k over the same truck with a gas motor.
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everyone to their own.....but why would anyone condone the Obummer administration by buying a government motors car?
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I know nothing of this motor. Any good? Just curious.
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Onliest reason I can see wanting that small of an engine in a diesel is IF it's as durable and long lasting as "real" diesels, and you just want/need a pick up truck for really light duty.
But that's a big IF.
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Just about everything you want to know about the VM Motori 3.0-liter V-6 that will be used to power the Ram half ton pickup can be found at the link - Click Here The only information we don't have is the emissions equipment that will be needed for this engine to meet U.S. emission standards, as European standards are not as strict as ours. VM Motori is a 50/50 joint venture between Fiat and General Motors.
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Even at HP, and torque numbers from the Jeep version, that makes a respectable pickup. If mileage numbers are comperable to the Jeep - looks like the Paul Harvey ad will be paying big divedends for Dodge.
At first glance, I like it. Time tells the true story however.
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After reading specs on those diesel engines, and their availability in Europe, it still pisses ya off that they are not sold here, courtesy of our tree hugger EPA nimrods.... between governmental corruption and Big Oil price gouging the consumers, its not like affordability to the public's wallet is any concern at all... no fuel should be the price that we are being charged.. especially diesel fuel... and then tree huggers don't want cars and trucks lasting that long anyway... Good luck the US Market seeing a diesel 1/2 ton truck... this stuff is made here and shipped overseas... pisses ya off, don't it?
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Back i the mid to late 90's, a guy I worked with bought a 3/4 ton dodge with a gen 1 cummins. Back then, the diesel was a 4-5k option, price per gallon was a wash because diesel was cheaper in the summer; more expensive in the winter, and the diesel was a much bigger improvement in mileage over a gasser than it is now. He figured the payback period for the diesel option was 100,000 miles.
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talked to a local guy, Vietnam Vet aged, who put one of those generation 1 diesels in a 1990s Ram Charger... supercharged the diesel.... about a 4 inch lift on it and 35 inch mudders, and a front bumper system that his welding shop made ( heaven have mercy whoever gets in his way).. and the same on the rear end ( heaven help whoever rear ends him also)
no pollution crap on it... pretty darn cool rig...
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I don't see the appeal when you can buy a 2500 Ram with a Cummins and pull 20 mpg. If they really want to attract buyers it should be a 4 banger inline diesel in a midsize truck like the Dakota or one of the Toyota trucks.
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I don't see the appeal when you can buy a 2500 Ram with a Cummins and pull 20 mpg. If they really want to attract buyers it should be a 4 banger inline diesel in a midsize truck like the Dakota or one of the Toyota trucks. You can forget 20mpg in the new diesels not happening unless to you pull all range emissions crap off and void engine warranty. My 2012 gets 11mpg. And only got 15 before the lift on hwy only.
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I don't see the appeal when you can buy a 2500 Ram with a Cummins and pull 20 mpg. If they really want to attract buyers it should be a 4 banger inline diesel in a midsize truck like the Dakota or one of the Toyota trucks. You can forget 20mpg in the new diesels not happening unless to you pull all range emissions crap off and void engine warranty. My 2012 gets 11mpg. And only got 15 before the lift on hwy only. 15 on the HWY?!! Damn, I was thinking of getting one of those for my next rig. 18-20 was the numbers I'm hearing. Of course up here in AK we CAN pull all the emissions crap off. The voided warranty would suck tho!
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We had Ford 4 cylinder deisel Rangers in Aghanistan. Even the Afghans had a hard time tearing them up. They required the high sulfer fuel and not this crap we have. I'd have one in a minute if they could sell them here. I understand they were made in India. kwg
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I don't see the appeal when you can buy a 2500 Ram with a Cummins and pull 20 mpg. If they really want to attract buyers it should be a 4 banger inline diesel in a midsize truck like the Dakota or one of the Toyota trucks. You can forget 20mpg in the new diesels not happening unless to you pull all range emissions crap off and void engine warranty. My 2012 gets 11mpg. And only got 15 before the lift on hwy only. Swap in manual hubs and your mileage will improve.
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a 4 banger inline diesel in a midsize truck like the Dakota or one of the Toyota trucks. Toyota has been moving third world fighters around in the sand for years in some of the most reliable diesel engines on the planet....just can't buy the bastards in the USA....
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Even at HP, and torque numbers from the Jeep version, that makes a respectable pickup. If mileage numbers are comperable to the Jeep - looks like the Paul Harvey ad will be paying big divedends for Dodge.
At first glance, I like it. Time tells the true story however. 240/420 is real close to the 99-01 24V Cummins that was about 230/460, I suspect that is very optimistic but still very good for a 1/2T pickup if fuel mileage is 25+.
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