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Jordan,

...Recoil impulse can do things to POA/POI intersections,that DooDads and KnickKnacks cain't pinpoint.

Hint.(grin)

Heck JB, i was thinkin 35moa of dial netting you 35" downrange was pretty accurate for the leupold

The first order of bidness,is to keep the horse in front of the cart...and to simply scratch things offa da list.

Speed,BC,ES/SD are known quantities(as quantified by the OP) and them are good things to have wrapped tidily. Such essentials,routinely meld in harmonious conjunction with numerous Boolistic Calculators and while there may be subtle deviations amongst the software ranks generated comeups,the differences ain't ever stark. Good info input,will reliably yield good comeups on the output.

The obvious that all are missing and are all too giddy about poking the pony behind the cart,is erector travel. To reliably arrange POA/POI intersection,you gotta deduce the flight characteristics of a given load,in a given atmosphere and have the means to RELIABLY alter it's course of flight,to intersect where the crosshairs are looking. To say the erector travel of the aforementioned 6-18x is suspect,is gross understatement. While easy enough to quantify,with but a single 100yd poke(so as to remove as much atmospheric from the equation as possible)...I'd be re-hitching the pony to the FRONT of the cart,prior to that easily discerned confirmation.

I'd haveta ascertain where the erector falls at the zero range and that in regards to the windage's relationship to it's mechanical center...if only for starters. It is undoubtedly cast hard to port or starboard and that will do no favors. Secondly,I'd wanna know where I was at in ele travel,regarding my zero and how much travel remains beyond that. Nailing both of them prudent points,is default money makers that'll bear copious fruit,lonngggggggg before loading(or firing) the first round for a new rifle. Hint.

Mounting systems is always suspect(both in their relative quality/integrity and their installation/torque),but I'll cast a gracious wand and go out on a limb and assume 'em to be in synch. Keep in mind that short receivers,closely spaced rings and long tubes(especially multi-segmented 1" versions)...are not a recipe for long term zero retaining satisfactions. Re-hint.

Now unto the crux and carts pulling ponies. You did not get a box of "soft" BC's. Nor did you get a transonic slip,in regards to the range(s) thus far cited. You did not get pinholes at 100 and keyholes at wayyyyyyy supersonic,due your twist rate...despite the hilarity of the chatter thus far associated,with such ruses. The odds on given,is that you've an erector which did not travel the full distance you input,regarding it's ele travel as the firing solution.

Soooooooo...cut to the [bleep] chase. Revisit the 100yd line,hang vertically stretched butcher paper and a nice little black dot at it's bottom. Then simply dope the erector travel for the solution that fell short and paste the crosshair on the single bottom dot. After that poke,simply measure the distance from aiming point to the boolit's hole and extrapolate the erector's travel as per that solution. Re-re-hint.

I know it'll take ALL the fun outta guessing and will allow you to cut to the [bleep] chase,but I've personally long had a warm/fuzzy for KNOWING and right outta da gate. Odd how them led to water,follow suit,after having seen the light. Do not be "suplized" that you find an erector soft spot,regarding it's ele travel...in a glass sighted hard to port or starboard. Nor be "suplized" that ele tracking changes,when nearing the end of the ele's cited travel. Further,understand that the full realm of ele travel is IMPOSSIBLE to realize,with an erector cast to port or starboard. Re-re-re-hint.

When you ain't dealing in KNOWN(proven on paper) quantities,regarding ele travel accuracy,ele range of travel and an ele erector's ability to track straight...then you is simply pizzing up many ropes and a guess is as good as you can ever do. Physics is a wonderful tool to bank upon and etched in [bleep] stone,which is why I find it curious that soooooooo many are in such a hurry to question it and long before the weakest link of ANY system and that being the erector proper.

You've been led to water. Re-re-re-re-hint.

Now as to dealing with an erector who's "click" graduation values as a single or in compilation,deviate from a cited design designator...who gives a [bleep]?!!? Simply denote the values and do bidness on the erector's adjustment,in correlation to the known values and POA/POI will reliably intersect. Rest assured,your stock don't give a schit,if the comeup solutions denoted on it's card...ain't harmonious with the graduation values slated by the Manufacturer. If/when encountering a flat spot in the travel(which is very typically at/near it's ceiling),simply denote when/where it falls and do bidness in those accords,if you are too cheap to skew the mounting system and ring the [bleep] bell.

Simply beat on schit and let it prove it's merit and weigh them findings as if they was gold...if only because they are. If/when sumptin' is suspect,focus upon keeping the pony in front of the cart and troubleshoot in that manner.

Pass the modest X's,shorter tube length,greater internal erector travel and hold the fluff.

'O,

There is nothing redeeming in the Conquest's length,weight,erector travel latitude,eye-relief or anything else. That melding in conjunction,with an entire ocular that rotates and precludes BC's,is easy to run away from and leave instead for The Paper Hat Brigade and their vivid [bleep] Imaginations and Pretend.

On the brightside,you remain hilariously at the mercy of your "abilities","experience" and "results"...which never ain't not funnier than [bleep].

A toilet paper roll's cardboard center,with cotton thread crosshairs,would reliably connect all the dots you could muster on your best day.

Somehow I feel like I'm watching an episode of HBO's "Deadwood"

'O,

It's a right proper dichotomy,that you's too stupid,to have an inkling to just how [bleep] incredibly stupid you are...though it sure as schit do add to the humor.

I've never purchased a Conquest,nor would I as currently configured,but more than several pards have schlepped 'em. DSMFER's for a spell there,were hip on bolting 'em atop Tikkas,so schit got doubly funny and fast. I'm thinkin' that most felt the warm/fuzzy with the "Zeiss" moniker and that alone were the impetus for the purchase. Though in the end,Monikers mean dick and I cain't think of a single soul slumming a Zeiss riflescope in any application. 'Course,one cain't find a Tikka anymore either. So some can read sign and avoid Goat [bleep] from inception and others gotta bump their heads on the wall and learn tough lessons. I always could read sign. It ain't all that "curious" in retrospect,that in the end,folks gun my riggin' instead...if only for the plethora of obvious reasons. Hint.

I getta kick outta your scope "critiques",just like all of your other "critiques",if only becauase they's an incredibly hilarious journey of gross ineptitude,frosted copiously with nothingness.

Sooooooooo...if an increase in weight,length,diminished eye-relief,Goat [bleep] "turrets" and the "satisfaction" of the live ocular horn you up and reliably garner your version of "excellent" "results",then please feel free to continue to wax eloquent in their regard. How'd you get "all" those cardboard boxes open anyhow?!!? Laffin'!

Knock it outta the park,hang some pics to quantify your "results",touch again upon how your an Optics maven and perhaps revisit how to mount a scope,so as to "maximize" eye-relief. If only because it'll be [bleep] hilarious,allllllll over again.

Yep...Conquests is "rare" and only someone who "does" as "much" as you,has ever banged one around. You never ain't not a clueless [bleep] Idiot and I find myself often atta loss,to decide which is my favorite Topic in which you "participate",to laugh about. It most certainly is an incredible volume of "work" and the most [bleep] hilarious part,is that despite your perpetual pontification of having all that "experience",spending "all" that time "afield",dabbling an "array" of boolits,chamberings and twist rates,you still come up with zero. THAT is [bleep] impressive and then some.

As per always,rest assured that I'm ALL ears,because schit don't get any [bleep] funnier,than you doing the best you can,with what incredibly little you have to work with.

Hell...mebbe a chart would really connect some dots.

Laffin'!