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Everyone better take this to heart!!! The time to Fight and keep fighting is "NOW"! Not after it happens

Basically what you all are saying is that the Constitution doesn't work!

Welcome to the real world!

Phil

very sorry for my friends in Colorado

and truthfully our nation as a whole


we all that love freedom suffer when anti American legislation such as this passes in any house of gov't anywhere in our great nation.

it's a loss for all of us that value freedom, the Constitution and what was once the USA

And just when I was considering going to Denver for the national American Water Works Assoc. meeting in June. Think I will write the Governor and let him know I won't be attending the conference in his screwed up state...

I've cussed this fact in the past since we wind up with some crazy 5hit on the ballot, but it might be an angle for hope. In Colorado, it is relatively easy to start a ballot initiative. I've a good mind to start one myself:

The number of signatures required for a successful petition is equal to 5% of the total number of votes cast for the office of Secretary of State in the preceding general election. The same number of signatures is required for constitutional amendments, statutes, and referendums.

86,105 signatures would do it.

I'll sign Superdave! Let me know!

I kind of like "The State shall make no law limiting the amount of live rounds that any firearm may hold at once."

Keeps it simple.

To hell with the pheasants too.

Then you just need 10 million bucks or so.....You guys voted for BHO in the last election and have a Dem majority in both houses and you think you'll get enough votes? Wasting time and money....Your only viable option now is the judical branch.

Thanks arffdog, we need to get together again one of these days. Cabin fever's killing me.

Gun lobby's far from broke. Think this crap is going to stop at just one of the square states? Might as well throw down somewhere.

"you guys" is laughable. Hell, I can see Utah from my yard. Denverites call the political shots but ceased to represent the geographic majority in this state decades ago. That's the way the nation's going too, in case nobody's noticed.

Let me know as well, I'll sign your petition.
Not a pretty day in CO, glad I gave all my guns away yesterday. I was pretty sure I would be committing a crime and figured it best to transfer them all to folks that I didn't suspect or have any reason to believe they were felons.

I moved from Colorado to Wyoming in 1978. That when Colorado started downhill.

@ Superdave.....'you guys" just meant Co in general. We have the same issue here in Ca in that the big urban areas control the politics for the remaining 90% of the state. I was simply trying to inform you that once a states voting majority reaches the dark shade of blue yours has, the fight at the ballot box is over. Your only chance is to challenge the laws in the court system. YMMV.

Does Colorado have a pistol/rifle association that's a state affilitate of the NRA? What do they say about all this??

My Colorado brothers if you think they are going to stop here you are sadly mistaken.

Each of you and any of our like minded friends there need to insert yourself in the process now. Don't sit by and read the headlines make a difference if you love your way of life you must protect it.

Don't be fooled they are after you.

That's great to hear. Get to it.

This isn't true. Conservative ballot initiatives are often successful in blue states. This is because they also measure dedication to a cause, not just raw numbers. Furthermore, blue state legislatures often overreach in the leftist policies they implement, i.e., the majority of residents don't actually support them, which fact only becomes manifest in the ballot initiative.

At least it sounds like the higher cap. Mags are grandfathered unlike in NY where they are no longer legal to own.

DENVER � Limits on the size of ammunition magazines and universal background checks passed the Colorado House on Monday, during a second day of emotional debates that has drawn attention from the White House as lawmakers try to address recent mass shootings.

The bills were among four that the Democratic-controlled House passed amid strong resistance from Republicans, who were joined by a few Democrats to make some of the votes close.

The proposed ammunition restrictions limit magazines to 15 rounds for firearms, and eight for shotguns. Three Democrats joined all Republicans voting no on the bill, but the proposal passed 34-31.

"Enough is enough. I'm sick and tired of bloodshed," said Democratic Rep. Rhonda Fields, a sponsor of the bill and representative of the district where the shootings at an Aurora theater happened last summer. Fields' son was also fatally shot in 2005.

Republicans argued that the proposals restrict Second Amendment rights and won't prevent mass shootings like the ones in Aurora and a Connecticut elementary school.

"This bill will never keep evil people from doing evil things," said Republican Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg.

The House also approved a bill requiring background checks on all gun purchases, including those between private sellers and firearms bought online.

Other proposals would ban concealed firearms at colleges and stadiums, and another requires that gun purchasers pay for their own background checks. Democrats eked out the closest vote on the background check measure, which passed on a 33-32 vote.

Democratic Rep. Ed Vigil, who represents rural southern Colorado, voted against the four bills, saying his decision was rooted in the state's rugged history.

"This is part of our heritage. This is part of what it took to settle this land. I cannot turn my back on that," he said.

But even though a few Democrats joined Republicans in voting no for the bills, the Democrats' 37-28 advantage in the House gave them enough leeway.

The Senate still needs to consider the proposals. Democrats will need to be more unified in their support there because their advantage is only 20-15. That means Republicans need only three Democrats to join them to defeat the bills.

House lawmakers began debating the bills Friday. Lawmakers debated for 12 hours before giving initial approval to the bills, setting up the final recorded votes Monday. During the debate Friday, Vice President Joe Biden called four Democrats, including two in moderate districts, to solidify support for the measures.

Democratic Rep. Dominick Moreno, who represents a district in suburban Denver, was among the four lawmakers. He said Biden "emphasized the importance of Colorado's role in shaping national policy around this issue."

Castle Rock Republican Rep. Carole Murray brought up Biden's calls during Monday's debate, saying she didn't appreciate "East-coast politicians" trying to influence Colorado legislators.

Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper supports the expanded background checks, and thinks gun buyers should pay for them. He also said he may support limits on the size of magazines, if lawmakers agree to a number between 15 and 20. He said he hasn't decided whether to support banning concealed firearms on campuses and stadiums.

Republicans say students should have the right to defend themselves.

"Do not disarm our young adults in general and our young women in particular on our college campuses in the name of a gun-free zone," Republican Rep. Jim Wilson said.

The gun debate highlights a fundamental philosophical difference between many Democrats and Republicans.

"I resent the implication that unless we all arm ourselves we will not be adequately protected," said Dickey Lee Hullinghorst, the Democrats' leader in the House.

Republican Rep. Christ Holbert became emotional while explaining his opposition to the bills. He said he understood Fields cares about the bills, because of her district and because her son was shot and killed in 2005.

"But I care passionately about the United States Constitution and the constitution of this state, and the oath that we have taken," Holbert said.