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Question.
I know I have to fill out paperwork to get my guns into S.A., my PH said he will send me the paperwork a month before my departure date.
My question is: Do I need to fill out paperwork to get my guns back into the country?
Thanks in advance
Mike
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All you need to get firearms back into the U.S. is Customs Form 4457. This is free and once filled out for a certain firearm is good forever. It proves you had the firearms before leaving the U.S., so you can legally bring them back in.
Theoretically, if your firearms are stamped "Made in the U.S.A." you don't have to do the form. A sales receipt from a U.S. store with the serial # also is legal. But some customs agents don't know all the rules, so getting a 4457 takes care of any hassles. You can get one at the nearest customs office, or even a TSA office. It's easiest to make an appointment to bring your guns in.
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Exactamudo.....best way is the little white form 4457
I was unable to do this once so had a copy of my 4473 ( the form you fill out when you buy the gun) made and used that.
Customs lady told me that wasnt good enough... ( WTF?) so I asked for her supervisor, who luckily knew what his job entailed, and cleared it instantly.
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When coming back from Argentina once I was informed by the young customs agent that my 4457 for my two shotguns wasn't valid, since it was a couple years ago. She firmly believed a 4457 had to be filled out EVERY time you traveled out of the country. Same deal: Her supervisor set her straight.
On the other hand, I once took the sales receipt for a Ruger No. 1 .375 H&H as proof of ownership on a trip to South Africa. The customs agent in Atlanta was a husky guy in his mid-30's. He took a look at the receipt and said, "You sure got a good deal on that No. 1!"
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All you need to get firearms back into the U.S. is Customs Form 4457. This is free and once filled out for a certain firearm is good forever. It proves you had the firearms before leaving the U.S., so you can legally bring them back in.
Theoretically, if your firearms are stamped "Made in the U.S.A." you don't have to do the form. A sales receipt from a U.S. store with the serial # also is legal. But some customs agents don't know all the rules, so getting a 4457 takes care of any hassles. You can get one at the nearest customs office, or even a TSA office. It's easiest to make an appointment to bring your guns in. I go to customs as they are used to seeing folks walk in with a gun case. Tried going in to TSA once and caused a big furor as they'd never seen anyone walk in with a gun case. They gave me a case of grief so I walked out.
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We don't have a customs office closer than 90 miles from here. We do have a TSA office, and all I have to do is call and make an appointment. Have done it several times with no problems--but even then I don't walk into their office unnannounced. Instead I go in and somebody goes out to my vehicle with me and records all the info. It's pretty simple.
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Mike,
Have you thought of using a rifle service?
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Thanks everyone for the usefull info, I will get on line and find the nearest customs or TSA office and do this next week.
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Marius,
I am unfamiliar with a rifle service. Is this a way I can insure my guns also?
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A rifle service applies for the temporary import permit on your behalf. So, you can be assured that everything will be in order by the time you land at Johannesburg. The one I always recommend to my hunters, will meet you as you come through the doors at Johannesburg airport and take you where you need to be. You will also be assured that the paperwork is in order and no hassles of incorrect filled in forms.
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I see. I talked with my PH and he said he is going to meet me at the airport and that he would handle retreiving our guns. Sounds like he may be providing me a similar service.
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Great.Best of luck on your safari!
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The Customs Form 4457 is not just for guns, you can use it for any type of valuable personal property that you are taking out of the country. It provides proof that you did not acquire it outside of the USA and therefore ensures that you do not have to pay import duties on it. Though it's not required, I would consider getting one if I had a very valuable camera or other piece of gear that I was taking on a hunt.
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