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Thirty-two year old Benjamin Wassell of Silver Creek has become the first victim in New York�s unconstitutional SAFE Act. That�s right, I used the term �victim� because these are completely unlawful laws being enforced. The western New Yorker is apparently the first person to be charged with violating the state�s unconstitutional gun law. According to state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, Mr. Wassell was charged on Thursday with three felonies related to the sale of illegal weapons. According to Schneiderman, Wassell twice sold weapons (semi-automatic rifles) that New York decided they wanted to ban in clear violation of the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. Officials claim that Wassell sold the weapons later in the same month that the SAFE Act was passed and again in February. He sold the weapons along with 300 rounds of ammunition. Now, here comes the interesting part and to demonstrate that this has nothing to do with legality, but about disarmament. Wassell was released on his own recognizance, though he is charged with numerous felonies. In other words, the court doesn�t see Mr. Wassell as dangerous. They just want his guns, which is what this is about. They want a disarmed populace. http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/f...unconstitutional-safe-act/#ixzz2Nlk1j14i
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3 felonies; thats life in prison isn't it?
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Isn't this the same case where the charges are that he was selling the weapons to a UC officer who told the defendant he was a convicted felon?
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They'll cut him a sweet deal..., give up all guns, pay a fine, a few years probation and 30 days in jail.
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson
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3 felonies; thats life in prison isn't it? As long as the felonies fall under the same charge, they will only get reported as one conviction. Not individually. Most 3-strikes laws only refer to violent offenses. Not sure about NY.
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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To many who have come to America and enjoyed our rights and relatively lavish lifestyle, gun ownership along with other Constitutional concepts are just stuff dreamed up by a bunch of dead, white slavers.
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SAFE for politicians to control their subjects!
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the state�s unconstitutional gun law.
We all keep saying that, but I haven't seen a single legal challenge to it in court yet. Makes me nervous that it's going to stick. MM
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History repeats itself......
" As the war went on, the British always remembered that without gun control, they could never control America. In 1777, with British victory seeming likely, Colonial Undersecretary William Knox drafted a plan entitled �What Is Fit to Be Done with America?� To ensure that there would be no future rebellions, �[t]he Militia Laws should be repealed and none suffered to be re-enacted, & the Arms of all the People should be taken away, . . . nor should any Foundery or manufactuary of Arms, Gunpowder, or Warlike Stores, be ever suffered in America, nor should any Gunpowder, Lead, Arms or Ordnance be imported into it without Licence . . . .�
To the Americans of the Revolution and the Founding Era, the theory of some late-20th Century courts that the Second Amendment is a �collective right� and not an �individual right� might have seemed incomprehensible. The Americans owned guns individually, in their homes. They owned guns collectively, in their town armories and powder houses. They would not allow the British to confiscate their individual arms, nor their collective arms; and when the British tried to do both, the Revolution began. The Americans used their individual arms and their collective arms to fight against the confiscation of any arms. Americans fought to provide themselves a government that would never perpetrate the abuses that had provoked the Revolution."
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Since the majority of NYS gun owners will not comply with this new law,the only way it can be enforced is through entrapment. If you live in NY be very careful who you deal with.
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History repeats itself......
" As the war went on, the British always remembered that without gun control, they could never control America. In 1777, with British victory seeming likely, Colonial Undersecretary William Knox drafted a plan entitled �What Is Fit to Be Done with America?� To ensure that there would be no future rebellions, �[t]he Militia Laws should be repealed and none suffered to be re-enacted, & the Arms of all the People should be taken away, . . . nor should any Foundery or manufactuary of Arms, Gunpowder, or Warlike Stores, be ever suffered in America, nor should any Gunpowder, Lead, Arms or Ordnance be imported into it without Licence . . . .�
To the Americans of the Revolution and the Founding Era, the theory of some late-20th Century courts that the Second Amendment is a �collective right� and not an �individual right� might have seemed incomprehensible. The Americans owned guns individually, in their homes. They owned guns collectively, in their town armories and powder houses. They would not allow the British to confiscate their individual arms, nor their collective arms; and when the British tried to do both, the Revolution began. The Americans used their individual arms and their collective arms to fight against the confiscation of any arms. Americans fought to provide themselves a government that would never perpetrate the abuses that had provoked the Revolution." This.
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We needed someone to be charged so they had cause, so I'm told. Seems Mr Wassell will have that privilege.
BTW - according to what I read the UC officer made it plainly known that he was a convicted felon. That in fact was a lie, as he is a State Storm Trooper. It will make for an interesting case if they don't scare him into a plea bargain.
Edit - I just read the story out of the Buffalo news. If the picture they showed of the AR is the one he sold, he was screwed even without the new law. The gun shown in the story has all the "evil" parts they outlawed with the AWB in '94 plus several Pmags that have never been legal in NY under the AWB (also unconstitutional IMO). I really hope the guy fights it but he doesn't look like the type to have the funds for a GOOD lawyer. I hope some hot shot attorney steps up and offers a pro-bono on this.
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For me that reason is usually because I've made some bad decisions that I need to pay for.
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