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how come bush jr's Iraq war isn't on the list, maybe it will be someday

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I read that article earlier in the paper this morning. Composed mainly by a bunch of numbskulls extremely ignorant of U.S. presidential history, in my opinion.

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AMERICA SUCKS!:
Ask any (progressive) Democrat
by J.B. Williams
Friday, January 27, 2006

Democrats are convinced that Americans keep electing Republicans either
because they are stupid, or because the DNC message just isn't reaching the
electorate. How could their message not reach the electorate when the
lamestream press covers their message daily on every front page?

Their message is out there, we hear it, we get it--it isn't that
complicated. Even my second grader gets it. Today's DNC campaign platform
can be summed up in two words. "AMERICA SUCKS!"

In short, nothing about America is right or good in the eyes of Democrats
and their campaign message is, nothing short of a complete DNC victory can
change that. This is their message. Everything sucks and only Democrats can
fix it. We get it. We hear you loud and clear--like a broken record
actually.

The war on terror SUCKS! Bush lied, people died, terrorists did nothing to
us, we caused it all, we can't win, Islamic terrorists are "freedom
fighters" and American soldiers are "Nazis". We hear you! We suck!

Our economy SUCKS! Matter of fact, capitalism and our free market system
SUCKS! Capitalism only rewards those who earn, leaving those who don't
behind and that SUCKS! We get it! Socialism is better--we hear you!

Western Medicine SUCKS! Doctors, pharmaceutical companies and
hospitals--bad. Trial lawyers--good. We get it! We have the best medicine in
the world but it is too damn expensive and that SUCKS! We understand!
Socialized medicine--good!

American Intelligence SUCKS! No WMD, no Bin Laden, torture camps and
"Gulags", NSA eavesdropping, no Geneva Convention for terrorists, no United
Nations cooperation and so many leaks that information flows from our secret
services like water through a kitchen colander. WE SUCK at intelligence! Got
it!

Our Military SUCKS! They are a rag tag bunch of broken manipulated fools
doing the dirty work of the Bush Empire. They are poorly trained, poorly
outfitted, poorly led and poorly fed. Their spirit is broken, they can't
fight their way out of a wet paper sack and only Democrats can fix
everything that is wrong with the military, its leadership and its capacity
to win wars. Hear ya loud and clear!

Freedom SUCKS! Freedom is the basis of self-determination and if every
American was capable of self-determination, who would be a Democrat today?
That SUCKS!

Free Speech SUCKS! If it concerns religion or any form of moral principle.
All else is fine.

Life SUCKS! Life is often inconvenient, always unfair and sometimes
downright tough. We get it, abortion--good, euthanasia--good, life--bad.

The Founders SUCK! The framers got it all wrong with their silly God given
inalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Huh! Just a
bunch of wealthy landowners securing their own dynasty at the expense of the
little guy. Marx and Lenin, now these fellows are some real progressive
thinkers who cared about the little guy. We get it! Socialism--good.

Justice SUCKS! Come to think of it, the Constitution SUCKS! We need Supreme
Court judges willing to re-write the Constitution since the framers got it
all wrong. The framers left so much out that we need special kinds of
justices who will write-in the missing parts. The written Constitution--bad,
the imaginary Constitution--good. That's why Alito SUCKS!

Marriage SUCKS! So does the traditional family unit. Unisex--good, communal
living--good, traditional family values--bad. Hard to miss this one!

Israel SUCKS! Hamas, Hezbollah, Mujahidin, Al Qaeda, all freedom fighters,
not terrorists. Palestinians--good, Jews--bad! We hear you loud and clear!

Corporations SUCK! Driven by extreme greed, they plan and plot the
destruction of average Americans; they rape and pillage our nation's
resources. Modern day despots responsible for all things evil in the world.
Labor unions--good, corporations--bad.

Face it, AMERICA SUCKS! This is the message that Howard Dean and other DNC
leaders have been peddling for some years now. We have not missed their
message. We couldn't miss it if we wanted to. It is pounded into the
American psyche day in and day out, around the clock, news paper upon news
paper, on every network news program in the country. Even Al Jazeera gets
it, hell, even Bin Laden knows the DNC squawking points inside out.

Democrats aren't out of power because we missed their message. They are out
of power because we are sick and tired of hearing their message.

Two days ago, CNN/Gallup announced the results of their current nationwide
survey, in which only 16% of voters strongly support a Hillary Presidential
run in 2008. THAT SUCKS since Hillary is by far the clear front-runner in
the DNC camp. 51% say there is no way they would ever vote for a Hillary
Presidential bid. No shocking headline to most Americans, but it SUCKS!

Democrats continue to misread the public on a range of matters, but none
more than the public disdain for Democrat's anti-American message. Contrary
to the assessments of Democratic campaign strategists, their problem isn't
that their message isn't resonating. It's that it is resonating, negatively!
American's have heard their message, loud and clear, like a broken record.
They just don't buy it!

People who believe AMERICA SUCKS will vote for any Democrat that runs for
any office today. But nobody else will and most Americans don't believe that
our country or our founding principles SUCK!

Republicans are poised to win even more power in the coming elections and
all they have to do is hand a microphone to the Democrats, sit back and
enjoy the show. It's Democrats who don't get it and until they figure it
out, they will continue to repeat their mistakes over and over, getting the
same results every time.

According to most Americans, DEMOCRATS SUCK!


Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."

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All you really need to do is look at the source...CNN,you don't need to read the article.





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How come two decades of not faceing the threat from radical middle easterners didn't make the list?

how come ignoreing intel that would have prevented half the US fleet being sent to the bottom of Pearl didn't make the list?

how come reports of MILLIONS of poeple being slaughtered by Germans,and Russians didn't make the list?

how come allowing legislation to impose income tax didn't make the list?

You want all ten?





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How come building the Soviet Army and letting it take possession of most of Europe did not make the list ?

How come letting the Shah of Iran down and allowing the radical Ayatollahs to grab power did not make the list ?

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Good post, that one went out to all the liberals in my family..ought to get a rise. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />







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How come Carter not leveling Tehran (for a start) when our Embassy was taken hostage didn't make the list? (OK- it would have been a little hard on the hostages, MAYBE, but a whole lot easier on the Twin Towers.)

The current Iranian situation seems to call for some serious firepower. They (and Korea, acting collectively) seem to think we don't have the cajones or the military reserve for it.

Do we?

We don't know if "Bush's War" on Iraq is going to work out in our favor or not- and won't for maybe 50 years. It's pretty clear what the alternative would have been, however.

He isn't trying to change Iraq, or even the Middle East, but the whole guess-able future. Win or lose, it was the right call IMO.


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Wooo-hoooo!! well said


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What about Clinton's refusal to take Bin Laden when he was offered to us as a prisoner?


Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.

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Scholars who participated said Buchanan did not do enough to oppose efforts by Southern states to secede from the Union before the Civil War.

That's enough to get the flavor of this bunch of statist jackasses right from the very beginning. Secession is simply the act of refusing to participate in something one doesn't agree with; therefore, preventing someone from seceding from something amounts to forcing him to do what he believes is wrong, which amounts to enslavement itself.

You can try to persuade somebody to choose not to secede, if you like; but forcibly preventing him is absolutely inexcusable and morally reprehensible.

If the South had won the War of Northern Aggression, black slavery might have staggered on for a few more years before collapsing under its own sheer economic weight, or the technology of the Industrial Revolution might have swept it aside much more quickly; but I suspect we'd all be quite a bit freer today than we are now.


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how come bush jr's Iraq war isn't on the list, maybe it will be someday


Time will tell. I think going in was not a blunder. Sadamm needed to be removed. The brutality to his own people, use of chemical weapons against enimies as well as the northern Kurds. constant violations against the UN. The threat of WMDS. He needed to go and the US Under Bush's direction were the only ones willing to deal with the threat.

How it is going now and its results will determine whether it will bcome a blinder.

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I read that article earlier in the paper this morning. Composed mainly by a bunch of numbskulls extremely ignorant of U.S. presidential history, in my opinion.

L.W.


They sure missed a lot. Clinton's Blackhawk down situation as well as the many scandels in his administration.

Carter's mess up in the Iranian Hostage situation. Just to name one of his many blunders.

They also named Reagon and Iran Contra. I don't think it was a blunder. any time you could rip of the Iatolia with spare parts that were not that good and use the $20,000,000 to defeat communism was a good thing. Oliver North should have gotten a medal. the only blunder was getting the democratic congress and media involved.

What about Johnson's War on Poverty?

Now that I brought up those issues, let the sparks fly!!

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AMERICA SUCKS!:
Ask any (progressive) Democrat
by J.B. Williams
Friday, January 27, 2006

Democrats are convinced that Americans keep electing Republicans either
because they are stupid, or because the DNC message just isn't reaching the
electorate. How could their message not reach the electorate when the
lamestream press covers their message daily on every front page?

Their message is out there, we hear it, we get it--it isn't that
complicated. Even my second grader gets it. Today's DNC campaign platform
can be summed up in two words. "AMERICA SUCKS!"

In short, nothing about America is right or good in the eyes of Democrats
and their campaign message is, nothing short of a complete DNC victory can
change that. This is their message. Everything sucks and only Democrats can
fix it. We get it. We hear you loud and clear--like a broken record
actually.

The war on terror SUCKS! Bush lied, people died, terrorists did nothing to
us, we caused it all, we can't win, Islamic terrorists are "freedom
fighters" and American soldiers are "Nazis". We hear you! We suck!

Our economy SUCKS! Matter of fact, capitalism and our free market system
SUCKS! Capitalism only rewards those who earn, leaving those who don't
behind and that SUCKS! We get it! Socialism is better--we hear you!

Western Medicine SUCKS! Doctors, pharmaceutical companies and
hospitals--bad. Trial lawyers--good. We get it! We have the best medicine in
the world but it is too damn expensive and that SUCKS! We understand!
Socialized medicine--good!

American Intelligence SUCKS! No WMD, no Bin Laden, torture camps and
"Gulags", NSA eavesdropping, no Geneva Convention for terrorists, no United
Nations cooperation and so many leaks that information flows from our secret
services like water through a kitchen colander. WE SUCK at intelligence! Got
it!

Our Military SUCKS! They are a rag tag bunch of broken manipulated fools
doing the dirty work of the Bush Empire. They are poorly trained, poorly
outfitted, poorly led and poorly fed. Their spirit is broken, they can't
fight their way out of a wet paper sack and only Democrats can fix
everything that is wrong with the military, its leadership and its capacity
to win wars. Hear ya loud and clear!

Freedom SUCKS! Freedom is the basis of self-determination and if every
American was capable of self-determination, who would be a Democrat today?
That SUCKS!

Free Speech SUCKS! If it concerns religion or any form of moral principle.
All else is fine.

Life SUCKS! Life is often inconvenient, always unfair and sometimes
downright tough. We get it, abortion--good, euthanasia--good, life--bad.

The Founders SUCK! The framers got it all wrong with their silly God given
inalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Huh! Just a
bunch of wealthy landowners securing their own dynasty at the expense of the
little guy. Marx and Lenin, now these fellows are some real progressive
thinkers who cared about the little guy. We get it! Socialism--good.

Justice SUCKS! Come to think of it, the Constitution SUCKS! We need Supreme
Court judges willing to re-write the Constitution since the framers got it
all wrong. The framers left so much out that we need special kinds of
justices who will write-in the missing parts. The written Constitution--bad,
the imaginary Constitution--good. That's why Alito SUCKS!

Marriage SUCKS! So does the traditional family unit. Unisex--good, communal
living--good, traditional family values--bad. Hard to miss this one!

Israel SUCKS! Hamas, Hezbollah, Mujahidin, Al Qaeda, all freedom fighters,
not terrorists. Palestinians--good, Jews--bad! We hear you loud and clear!

Corporations SUCK! Driven by extreme greed, they plan and plot the
destruction of average Americans; they rape and pillage our nation's
resources. Modern day despots responsible for all things evil in the world.
Labor unions--good, corporations--bad.

Face it, AMERICA SUCKS! This is the message that Howard Dean and other DNC
leaders have been peddling for some years now. We have not missed their
message. We couldn't miss it if we wanted to. It is pounded into the
American psyche day in and day out, around the clock, news paper upon news
paper, on every network news program in the country. Even Al Jazeera gets
it, hell, even Bin Laden knows the DNC squawking points inside out.

Democrats aren't out of power because we missed their message. They are out
of power because we are sick and tired of hearing their message.

Two days ago, CNN/Gallup announced the results of their current nationwide
survey, in which only 16% of voters strongly support a Hillary Presidential
run in 2008. THAT SUCKS since Hillary is by far the clear front-runner in
the DNC camp. 51% say there is no way they would ever vote for a Hillary
Presidential bid. No shocking headline to most Americans, but it SUCKS!

Democrats continue to misread the public on a range of matters, but none
more than the public disdain for Democrat's anti-American message. Contrary
to the assessments of Democratic campaign strategists, their problem isn't
that their message isn't resonating. It's that it is resonating, negatively!
American's have heard their message, loud and clear, like a broken record.
They just don't buy it!

People who believe AMERICA SUCKS will vote for any Democrat that runs for
any office today. But nobody else will and most Americans don't believe that
our country or our founding principles SUCK!

Republicans are poised to win even more power in the coming elections and
all they have to do is hand a microphone to the Democrats, sit back and
enjoy the show. It's Democrats who don't get it and until they figure it
out, they will continue to repeat their mistakes over and over, getting the
same results every time.

According to most Americans, DEMOCRATS SUCK!



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My vote for #1 right now is the UAE company now poised to take over our shipping ports..

While I mostly support President Bush, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of and needs to be round-filed asap..

ps.. You know it's a stupid idea when ex-Pres. Carter thinks it's a good deal. There is NO doubt that Carter is the dumbest president in US history, bar none... An absolute moron. Makes Daunte Culpepper look like a Harvard honors graduate.. (You Queens fans will know what I'm talking about). Hehehehehe


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[/quote]If the South had won the War of Northern Aggression, black slavery might have staggered on for a few more years before collapsing under its own sheer economic weight, or the technology of the Industrial Revolution might have swept it aside much more quickly; but I suspect we'd all be quite a bit freer today than we are now. [/quote]


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I hadn�t the heart to disillusion them.

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