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Giving thought to modifying a Ruger No. 1 to either .35 Remington or .348 Winchester. Is there any factory caliber (for No. 1) that would be a preferable candidate for a rebore and rechamber or is rebarreling going to be absolutely necessary?
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Giving thought to modifying a Ruger No. 1 to either .35 Remington or .348 Winchester. Is there any factory caliber (for No. 1) that would be a preferable candidate for a rebore and rechamber or is rebarreling going to be absolutely necessary? Well, off the top of my shiny dome...: Here are the factory chamberings you have to work with: 1: .22 Hornet 2: .218 Bee 3: .223 Rem 4: .220 Swift 5: .243 Win 6: 6mm Rem 7: .257 Robts8: .25/06 9: .270 Win. 10: .280 Rem 11: .30/06 12: .308 Win.Of course, I didn't mention any magnums... For the simple reason that the body length on the belted mag case is longer than the body on the .348 win. Of the eleven chamberings mentioned, only the .223 Rem would certainly be possible to bore to .35 Rem. (The .220 Swift might be close, and has a base diameter of .445" and a body length of 1.522" . The .35 Rem has a base diameter of .457" and a body length of 1.539" That's cutting it pretty close...) For the .348 Win, one could use the .223 Rem for sure, and I think the .220 Swift, the .243 Win, 6mm Rem, .257 Robts, and .308 Win. Any of the '06 length case have too long of a body, I believe... The .22 Hornet could, of course, but they are fairly rare, ditto the .257 Robts, 7x57 Mauser, and the .308 Win. And I've never seen a lot of .220 Swifts... So that kind of leaves you with the .223 Rem, .243 Win, and 6mm Rem They also chambered the 1-A and 1-B in .204 Ruger, but good luck finding one... All of the above is presuming you are going to purchase a 1-B for your project. Hope this helps... GH
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You can go here, they rebarrel Ruger #1 & 3#. http://www.pac-nor.com/ Were it me, I'd go a little silly and rebarrel it to the 35-348 Winchester for a better bullet selection. Run the .348 Winchester case into the F.L. die which will expand the neck (or purchase a separate expander die) and load. Pac-Nor lists the .35-348 as a Wildcat, so they haave the reamer. Depending on the current caliber, a rebarrel will be needed if a rebore isn't possible. I have a different cartridge, the .35-348 Winchester Ackley Improved, but going that far is entirely unnecessary. The process of making the Ackley version includes producing .35-348 Winchester which is easy. Fire forming them in the Ackley chamber produces the familiar straight body and 40 degree shoulder. In any event, the .348 Winchester has a very limited selection of bullets, Barnes, Hornady, North Fork Bullets, and Woodleigh are the major players, with Hornady being the most affordable. In it's .35 caliber guise, bullets from bulk packaged Remington Core-Lockt to Barnes, Hornady, Sierra, and more are available. Because the Ruger #1 will use pointed bullets, there are more suitable in .35 caliber than .348. Something to think about if you really want a .348 Winchester based cartridge.
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JES rifle Reboring ( http://www.35caliber.com/2.html) does a really good job reboring Ruger 1's in most all the light calibers to 35 calibers their prices are reasonable. While the 348 is a fantastic caliber the only bullet available are flat-points and are hard to come by some-times. The 35 remington however could use the plentiful 35 caliber bulk bullets available and some really good premium hunting bullets that otherwise haven't been tried by that caliber except in pistols.
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something to think about is the 33 wcf that is the standard 338 cal bullets
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something to think about is the 33 wcf that is the standard 338 cal bullets
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The .348 is limited by bullet selection, and the 35 Rem by powder capacity.
Unless you just have to own a No.1 in one of those oddball rounds, either the .35 Whelen or .338-06 would be vastly more usefull.
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Instead of a 35 Rem I would rather have a 358 Win.
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Instead of a 35 Rem I would rather have a 358 Win.
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The .348 is limited by bullet selection, and the 35 Rem by powder capacity.
Unless you just have to own a No.1 in one of those oddball rounds, either the .35 Whelen or .338-06 would be vastly more usefull. To you perhaps, but perhaps NOT to the original poster. About 40 years ago, I learned a very important lesson. Just because something makes sense, doesn't mean it will be satisfying to someone who wants something else! Case in point: In 1973 I was set to purchase my 1st commercial deer rifle. I had a sporterized mil-surp in 8x57. I wanted a .270 Win. After, all it was more powerful and shot flatter than the 8x57. After several weeks of serious searching, without any luck, my buddy talked me into a Remington 700 BDL in .30/06. I hated it then, and still do, and still have the rifle... Now I'm not saying the venerable '06 isn't any good... It just wasn't what I wanted! In the intervening 40 years, I've only hunted with that rifle 3 years, I believe. Never taken any game with it. But it's been shot ALOT at the range. Someday I shall pass it on to my eldest grandson. I hope he likes it better than I did. Perhaps the OP just wants a .348 Win or a .35 Rem... There is nothing wrong with that. Many of us desire certain chamberings because of an association or reason that most often goes unspoken. But that doesn't make it wrong. It's his itch! He should be able to scratch it anyway he likes... Be it RIGHT, WRONG, or INDIFERENT! As an aside...: Ironically, I have taken my best buck with the 8x57... And now have gone full circle... I'm right back where I started... But now my favorite 8x57 is a Ruger #1... And I'd hate to admit how many rifles have gone thru my hands in the last 40 years... GH
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I covered that in my original post, genius. What part of "Unless you just have to own...." did you not f#cking understand? Obviously, none of it, since it took you six f#cking paragraphs to say the same thing I said in six words.
Take your 8x57 and shove it up your azz.
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Obviously my point went over your head... Why is it that instead of answering the original poster's question, you know-it-alls ALWAYS try to talk someone into what YOU think is right?
I don't recall that the OP ever mentioned the .338/06 OR the .35 Whelen, And I'll bet you if he's been around here a while, he's NOT unaware of their existence...
I guess there is another: **You are ignoring this user...**
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Grasshopper you are spot on!
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Obviously my point went over your head... Why is it that instead of answering the original poster's question, you know-it-alls ALWAYS try to talk someone into what YOU think is right?
I don't recall that the OP ever mentioned the .338/06 OR the .35 Whelen, And I'll bet you if he's been around here a while, he's NOT unaware of their existence...
I guess there is another: **You are ignoring this user...** Just like your Barnes posts....
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There were .357 magnums made in the #1A, but they are rare and the OP would probably get tarred & feathered by Ruger collectors if he rechambered one of them to .35 Rem, plus I don't know if the twist would work for all .35 Rem bullets. The .348 has never been made in the #1, so unless someone's custom turned up, it would require a rebarrel. FWIW, (if no one takes offense ) the #1AB was made in .338 Federal, and of course the .35 Whelan was made in the #1A. These are easier solutions if you want a .35-ish #1. After thinking about it, though, a .35 Rem in the 1A would seem a neat idea, good balance of power & weight in a compact, efficient rifle
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