Still don�t see where you�re going with this. Is it morally different to deprive two people of the same right because one claims it for himself while the other had it bestowed upon him?
Where do YOUR rights come from? Mine come from our Creator.
The title of your post seems to direct the question at gun rights. I'm not an athiest, but gun rights are constitutional rights, 2nd amendment.
The issue of rights has been tossed around carelessly in the media the past few years, i.e, 'right to healthcare', 'right to affordable home ownership', I saw one about a 'right to water'. That's all a crock. You can see exactly what your rights are in the Bill of Rights, aka, Constitution.
If you are talking about the scope of some higher authority - basic human rights, spiritual rights, etc. then the issue becomes more complicated and more difficult to define something as specific as gun rights.
So if someone breaks into Shreck's house, ties him up, and steals his property then his rights were not violated since he had no rights, as evidenced by his inability to defend the rights that he had previously claimed.
and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8)
Well most atheists are progressive fascists. They don't believe that man has any rights. They believe that the state knows best if it is run by Obama and his followers.
Where do YOUR rights come from? Mine come from our Creator.
The title of your post seems to direct the question at gun rights. I'm not an athiest, but gun rights are constitutional rights, 2nd amendment.
The issue of rights has been tossed around carelessly in the media the past few years, i.e, 'right to healthcare', 'right to affordable home ownership', I saw one about a 'right to water'. That's all a crock. You can see exactly what your rights are in the Bill of Rights, aka, Constitution.
If you are talking about the scope of some higher authority - basic human rights, spiritual rights, etc. then the issue becomes more complicated and more difficult to define something as specific as gun rights.
We don't have gun rights, per se. We have a right to life. Having a right to life means you have the right to protect that life. Being armed is the way by which we can effectively protect that right to life, therefore the right to be armed is inherent from the right to life.
The second amendment protects the right to life by protecting the right to be armed.
The above is also true when you place it under the auspice of the right to Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Each of these individually and collectively are where we get the 2nd Amendment from.
The question the OP posits is who establishes the Laws of Nature from which we garner these rights?
Does man, being man, have the authority to do so?
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
Mine come from the fact that I am a human and claim them. Nothing gave them to me.
Intriguing point, shreck. If your rights are based only on your claim to them, then they are secure only to the extent that you are able to defend them, right?
Not being able to defend a right does not eliminate the existence of that right.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
Where do YOUR rights come from? Mine come from our Creator.
Mine came from a Constitution that was written by those who believed only God could grant unalienable rights. I believe some rights are unalienable, but whether God grants those rights or whether they be human rights, I'm glad we have them.
The fact that they are God given is why they mean squat. The fact that rights are from God is why men do not have the ability to abolish them. It's because of God given rights that when men attempt to trample on them, we can justly defend those rights from tyrannical men.
If rights are not from God, then they do not exist as then they would only be that which is permitted by other men. They wouldn't be rights at all but mere permissions.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
Where do YOUR rights come from? Mine come from our Creator.
The title of your post seems to direct the question at gun rights. I'm not an athiest, but gun rights are constitutional rights, 2nd amendment.
The issue of rights has been tossed around carelessly in the media the past few years, i.e, 'right to healthcare', 'right to affordable home ownership', I saw one about a 'right to water'. That's all a crock. You can see exactly what your rights are in the Bill of Rights, aka, Constitution.
If you are talking about the scope of some higher authority - basic human rights, spiritual rights, etc. then the issue becomes more complicated and more difficult to define something as specific as gun rights.
"We hold these truths to be "SELF EVIDENT"............ are "ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with certain inalienable rights....".
Our founding documents recognize the existence of certain rights that are not subject to revocation by government.The only authority higher than that of a Sovereign Nation necessarily is a Creator, and the Founders recognized that.
So, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness,along with the means to defend those rights, come from a Creator God.
An Atheist saying;"... from my cold, dead, hand", just rings hollow to me.
Where do YOUR rights come from? Mine come from our Creator.
The title of your post seems to direct the question at gun rights. I'm not an athiest, but gun rights are constitutional rights, 2nd amendment.
The issue of rights has been tossed around carelessly in the media the past few years, i.e, 'right to healthcare', 'right to affordable home ownership', I saw one about a 'right to water'. That's all a crock. You can see exactly what your rights are in the Bill of Rights, aka, Constitution.
If you are talking about the scope of some higher authority - basic human rights, spiritual rights, etc. then the issue becomes more complicated and more difficult to define something as specific as gun rights.
"We hold these truths to be "SELF EVIDENT"............ are "ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with certain inalienable rights....".
Our founding documents recognize the existence of certain rights that are not subject to revocation by government.The only authority higher than that of a Sovereign Nation necessarily is a Creator, and the Founders recognized that.
So, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness,along with the means to defend those rights, come from a Creator God.
An Atheist saying;"... from my cold, dead, hand", just rings hollow to me.
Which in theory is great, except in a practical sense, your rights are being restricted, denied revoked or otherwise constantly under attack.
In a practical sense you only have the rights that are granted by the society around you and/or the rights you are willing to fight for..
You guys are in a better legal position than us Brits because of your Constitution, but we both know that unless you fight for it people like Obama and his supporters would take away many of the rights it protects..
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