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Been looking at some sights and got sticker shock on the prices <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />.
How should I equip my rifle? Rear sight with windage and a regular spirit level front sight?...Or...
Long range rear sight and a front sight with windage and a level?
The price of them is $624 and $653 respectively for the pairs.
What to do?
Thanks...
Bart

Bart, unless you are going to shoot lots of long range I would use a front sight with inserts and a level. Baldwin is one of the better ones. The MVA and Lee Shaver's are fine, too. For a rear sight I would stay with a Soule type sight. I buy the MVA long staff Soule but not the buffalo windage. The windage knobs stick out to far on that one for my tastes and if I need that much windage I'm going home. Baldwin makes a good soule that I see alot, but beware the knobs turn backward from the MVA so don't buy one of each unless you want to hear your spotter say "your other left stupid!" Happens to me enouhg as it is.

SS

Ditto to what SharpsShooter said, especially about not going with a windage-adjustable front sight or Buffalo Soule. I'm realistic about my abilities too, and if the wind is blowing so hard that I need all that windage, I may as well go home. BT DT. The choice of sight brands is a tough one, not unlike scope brands with modern rifles. MVA is kind of like the Leupold of vintage-type sights. There may be others as good, maybe better values, but MVA sets the standard for quality and customer service. These sights are precision instruments, and they do fail or need service from time to time, even MVAs. Make sure that whoever produces the sight, they will graciously honor their warranty, fixing your sight promptly and without whining or hassle. BT DT, too. Finally, you owe it to yourself to check out the Hoke sight. It is the sight I have come to prefer, mainly because it can be adjusted for wear, and it is lefty-friendly. Not cheap, but a good value, and it comes with an adjustable aperture eyepiece.

Paul

SharpsShooter,

My God man, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I looked up to you for all those pigs you KILL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> and now I see your afraid of bit wind and your a Texain too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I have a long range Brockway rear sight, Baldwin front, at the Long Street casino shoot I had 32 minutes of wind on at one time. Brockway doesn't make sights any more. I agree with SharpsShooter about the MVA Buffalo soule being like a kick stand it's so wide. The regular MVA soule has windage that will move to over 30 minutes, only it's off it's scale and you have to keep track mentaly were your windage is.

Baldwin makes soule sights that turn left for left and right for right. All you have to do is get on his waiting list, takes a couple of months of wait. I have two of his built as mention above.

Kelley O.

Come on Kelley, its hard enough being an idol without extra pressure. Two weeks ago the scheduled Fort shoot had 30mph wind and 24 degrees. I stayed in bed. It got canceled and we did the re-shoot today. A note to the wise. 45-90's shot in a 45-100 chamber can leave a large section of brass case in a spot you don't want it.

SS

SS,

I realize this is a digression from Bart's original question, but how can firing a shorter case like a .45-90 in a .45-100 chamber result in a case separation, which is what I believe you were referring to? I ask for a couple of reasons. A new shooter recently asked me if a .45-70 could be fired in a .45-90 chamber, and I told him it wasn't a good idea, and speculated that it might have something to do with the bullet slugging up in the extra chamber space, but I really didn't know the answer. The other reason is that I bought a Shiloh .45-90 from a Texas gentleman who may be one of your compadres. It had been rebarreled with a Badger barrel by a Texas gunsmith. 150 pieces of Remington/BA brass came with the deal. The rifle has shot well for me, and I never had any problems with cases, but I discovered that the chamber is on the long side, accepting a case up to around 2.495" long. I have fired about 1000 rounds with no discernable problems, but I am curious. I apologize to all for the digression, but I hope it proves instructional.

Paul

Paul, I really have no idea why the case separated. It was very discouraging to throw the lever and get that little stubby 45-90 case butt out of it. I am guessing soft bullets and nothing for the case mouth to buttress against, I dunno. I was using bore pigs and the chamber was wet. That probably didn't help. The real reason was I was shooting good and the rifle gods just cannot accept that. I won the match, but I sure didn't help myself to shoot into master class.

SS

After listing all the reason over on Shiloh.

More realistic verson <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> Fouling may have built up just enough in the chamber by firing shorter cases so there was no room for proper case mouth expansion. In other words the bullet and wad hung onto the case walls pulling the case apart.

Kelley O.

Kelley, I was using bore pigs but the chamber got worse and worse as I continued to shoot. On top of the chamber jump the bullet had to make this rifle has got Shilohs old paper patch freebore of about .20". So that bullet was pretty much gonig through a shredder before it got to the rifling.

Oddly enough they shot pretty good.

SS