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You do realize that the most decorated unit of our entire military history was one that was entirely made up of Japanese Americans who fought in WWII, right?


I'm well aware of that but it's also a fact that many Japanese-Americans were sent to Japan to be educated and indoctrinated and were disloyal, their allegiance being to the Empire of Japan. The same case I'm sure could be made for patriotic Muslims fighting in our armed forces but it doesn't change the fact that the larger Muslim population presents a threat.


The difference is one is an ideology, and the other is a race.



It had nothing to do with race, it was culture and ideology, they just happened to be of a different race.



" What MAGIC reveals is stunning: hundreds of resident Japanese were acting as spies, feeding information to Japan. If the U.S. had arrested the individual spies, it would have revealed to Japan that her codes had been broken. Faced with a similar dilemma, Prime Minister Winston Churchill allowed Coventry to be bombed without warning.In 1942, some 112,000 Japanese were living on the Pacific Coast. About 40 percent were resident aliens and the remainder, by virtue of U.S. birth, were American citizens. The citizens, however, were mostly children, and when the U.S. declared war on Japan, their parents became enemy aliens. Moreover the Japanese emperor claimed all Japanese, wherever born, as subjects. They were referred to as doho, meaning countrymen. Japanese residents in the U.S. sent their children to �Japanese school� on Saturdays. A teacher in one of the schools told his American-born students, �You must remember that only a trick of fate has brought you so far from your homeland, but there must be no question of your loyalty. When Japan calls, you must know that it is Japanese blood that flows in your veins.�

Resident Japanese also sent their children to Japan for schooling. By 1940, more than 20,000 American-born Japanese had been educated in Japan. Known as kibei, they were fluent in Japanese, steeped in Japanese history and culture, and supporters of Japanese expansion in the Far East. They could hardly be distinguished from young militarists in Japan. Lt. Cmdr. K.D. Ringle of the Office of Naval Intelligence had been investigating the kibei for several months when the Japanese perpetrated their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. In January 1942, he submitted a report saying:

[T]he most potentially dangerous element of all are those American citizens of Japanese ancestry who have spent the formative years of their lives, from 10 to 20, in Japan and have returned to the United States to claim their legal American citizenship within the last few years. Those people are essentially and inherently Japanese and may have been deliberately sent back to the United States by the Japanese government to act as agents.

An example of war hysteria? Hardly. Kibei formed the Sokoku Kenkyu Seinen Dan (Young Men�s Association for the Study of the Mother Country) and the Sokuji Kikoku Hoshi Dan (Organization to Return Immediately to the Homeland to Serve) and called for all American-born Japanese to renounce their U.S. citizenship. Nearly 6,000 did. They became known as �renunciants� and were interned at Tule Lake Segregation Center in northeastern California. In camp they greeted the rising sun, cried �banzai,� blew bugles, drilled, celebrated on Pearl Harbor Day, rioted, and demanded expatriation to Japan.

Thousands of other American-born Japanese served in the armed forces of Japan. Several of them became infamous for their interrogations and tortures of American prisoners. The most notorious was California-born Tom Kawakita, known as �Efficiency Expert� for his diabolical methods of torture. When American bombers began hitting Japan and the prisoners suspected the war�s end was near, Kawakita told them, �We will kill all you prisoners right here �. I will go back to the States because I am an American citizen.�

Throughout 1941, the U.S. frequently intercepted reports of resident aliens and Japanese Americans providing information to Japanese agents. In a decrypted message on May 9, for example, a Japanese agent in Los Angeles reports, �We have already established contact with absolutely reliable Japanese in the San Pedro and San Diego area, who will keep a close watch on all shipments of airplanes and other war materials �. We shall maintain connection with our second generations who are at present in the [U.S.] Army, to keep us informed of various developments in the Army. We also have connections with our second generations working in airplane plants for intelligence purposes.�

In a decrypt on May 11, a Japanese agent in Seattle mentions intelligence concerning �the concentration of warships within the Bremerton Naval Yard, information with regard to mercantile shipping and airplane manufacture, movements of military forces �� The agent also said, �We have made arrangements to collect intelligences from second generation Japanese draftees on matters dealing with troops, as well as troop speech and behavior.� A �first generation Japanese,� who was a union committee chairman, is identified as providing a report on the labor movement. �[F]or the collection of intelligences with regard to anti-participation organizations and the anti-Jewish movement, we are making use of a second generation Japanese lawyer.� And so it goes for hundreds of pages. "

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/internment-scandal/

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Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
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The bottom line here is that todays law enforcement fears and hates the general population as a group.
Categorically untrue.
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
The population is starting to hate and fear the police for good reason. One feeds off the others fears.


The spreading fear of paranoid weirdo's is not a good reason.
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In times of a crisis as shown during the LA riots and Katrina, the police run for the hills. If they don't have overwhelming odds, they run away.


You mean, like the one's that ran into the towers or towards the bombs?
Are you serious? Easy to be a tough guy when no one is shooting back, isn't it?


Always. What's your point?

Our military acts the same way in combat...

Criminals act the same way...

It's just smart. When you're outgunned, retreat until you can get more guns...


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Originally Posted by heavywalker
Is that why you enjoy being a dumbphuck on the internet?
As usual, name calling. You got nothing. Don't address any issues. You got nothing.

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Originally Posted by HugAJackass

The color is functional because it's subdued and allows a bit of cover.
If that were the case, our military would be wearing black on the front lines. In fact, black makes for a better, clearer, target. The only purpose for black uniforms worn by a domestic paramilitary force is to instill fear on the population they are meant to oppress.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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whatever happened to regular uniforms or a suit and a tie? Police are payed to protect and to serve not intimidate . If you want to be a soldier join the Military
Guys who want to be cops nowadays don't think this image is cool enough anymore.

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Nice try TRH.... yep that's what most LEO's need in today's threat environment.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by HugAJackass

The color is functional because it's subdued and allows a bit of cover.
If that were the case, our military would be wearing black on the front lines. In fact, black makes for a better, clearer, target. The only purpose for black uniforms worn by a domestic paramilitary force is to impose fear on the population they are meant to oppress.


So, now you WANT the cops to dress like the military? laugh

The boogey man in your nightmares has always been a cop, TRH, you can admit it...


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by HugAJackass

The color is functional because it's subdued and allows a bit of cover.
If that were the case, our military would be wearing black on the front lines. In fact, black makes for a better, clearer, target. The only purpose for black uniforms worn by a domestic paramilitary force is to impose fear on the population they are meant to oppress.


You would schit bricks if all those police showed up in desert camo fatigues. So aside from a blue uniform, you would have a problem with their attire.








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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
The bottom line here is that todays law enforcement fears and hates the general population as a group.
Categorically untrue.
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
The population is starting to hate and fear the police for good reason. One feeds off the others fears.


The spreading fear of paranoid weirdo's is not a good reason.
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
In times of a crisis as shown during the LA riots and Katrina, the police run for the hills. If they don't have overwhelming odds, they run away.


You mean, like the one's that ran into the towers or towards the bombs?
Are you serious? Easy to be a tough guy when no one is shooting back, isn't it?


Always. What's your point?

Our military acts the same way in combat...

Criminals act the same way...

It's just smart. When you're outgunned, retreat until you can get more guns...
So we agree, police are not heros. As you point out, no different than the military or the criminals.

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Ok, it's been fun messing with you paranoids, but the house needs some attention.

Try to avoid your own shadows, they're dark, and that's scary...


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I see it as offense vs defense. The military is offensive by nature. Law Enforcement, not so much - much more defensive in nature - to protect, serve, and help. Seeing LE in offensive gear on American soil is unnerving at best.




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Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
So we agree, police are not heros. As you point out, no different than the military or the criminals.


The difference is that they go get the equipment they need and then go back out to face the danger, while cowards like you sit comfortably in your livingroom bitching about how they do their jobs.

I don't think we're in agreement. They are far more heroic than you've ever been in your wildest fantasy.


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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
So, now you WANT the cops to dress like the military? laugh
The question is the purpose for wearing black paramilitary uniforms. Try to stay focused. The purpose for blue or tan civilian style uniforms wasn't to instil fear in the populations they served. Black paramilitary style uniforms are specifically designed for that psychological effect.

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Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
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Is that why you enjoy being a dumbphuck on the internet?
As usual, name calling. You got nothing. Don't address any issues. You got nothing.


Pretty simple survival stagey, if you are outnumbered and outgunned, you regroup and devise a plan of action. How [bleep] stupid would a trained force have to be to run headstrong into an overwhelming force? I guess you would prefer that their dead bodies litter the streets. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity and apparently you have not figured it out, enter original comment here.








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Originally Posted by RDFinn
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My late father was a career police officer who retired in 1985. He spoke often before he died about how troubled he was by the increasing militarization of police departments and what he called an increasing "us versus them attitude" being exhibited by those who are supposed serve the public.


Not sure what time frame that attitude started, but back in my day when someone said "us vs. them" they were referring to management, not the citizens.
Maybe that's what you thought. I like you and every cop on here, but you fellas have a different perspective than those who do not or have worn a badge. I know attitudes and impressions are formed over time and it takes time for those to adjust, if they ever do, but it pays for all of us to remember we are coming at this kind of topic from different perspectives. Perception is the only reality any of us can live in.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by HugAJackass

The color is functional because it's subdued and allows a bit of cover.
If that were the case, our military would be wearing black on the front lines. In fact, black makes for a better, clearer, target. The only purpose for black uniforms worn by a domestic paramilitary force is to instill fear on the population they are meant to oppress.


It is the Ninja thing why they chose Black . Black is the preferred color for night operations in the Military so you can become one with the night ,if black is to blend in with the surrounding then the San Francisco Police should wear Pink so they can blend in


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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
So we agree, police are not heros. As you point out, no different than the military or the criminals.


The difference is that they go get the equipment they need and then go back out to face the danger, while cowards like you sit comfortably in your livingroom bitching about how they do their jobs.

I don't think we're in agreement. They are far more heroic than you've ever been in your wildest fantasy.
You don't know chit about me but if it makes you feel better about yourself and your delusions of heroism, I'm glad to accomodate you.

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wearing a badge and getting payed for it doesn't automatically make you a Hero , you have to earn that title .


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The government relys on fear to keep us in line. Fear than gunmen will kill our kids, fear that terrorists will blow us up, etc..


We had an army chasing a 19 year old, and we don't even know if he was armed. I suspect that if some real "facts" come to light, we'd realize that things were alot different than what we heard..

I heard that the suspect was seriously woulded, and laying in the boat.. yet we have a picture of him climbing out of the boat? Why didn't he climb out and run after the guy pulled back the cover and saw him in the boat?

What gun did they use to kill the MIT cop? Did they actually kill the MIT cop? How the heck did the kid get away when he had an entire army after him, complete with flir helicoptors?

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Originally Posted by heavywalker
Originally Posted by M7300SAUM
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Is that why you enjoy being a dumbphuck on the internet?
As usual, name calling. You got nothing. Don't address any issues. You got nothing.


Pretty simple survival stagey, if you are outnumbered and outgunned, you regroup and devise a plan of action. How [bleep] stupid would a trained force have to be to run headstrong into an overwhelming force? I guess you would prefer that their dead bodies litter the streets. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity and apparently you have not figured it out, enter original comment here.
The police do not exhibit heroic behavior. They are no better than the average citizen. That is my point. They are not your friend and in the near future will become your master and some are too blind to see reality.

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