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Sorry to hear of your loss, Armen! That sucks. Hope your insurance comes through for the replacement costs.
I just completed an inventory of my firearms for my home insurance and replacement value would be a LOT more than my current policy will pay. Gotta pay an extra several hundred bucks for a rider on it now.
I have two smaller gun safes that barely hold my collection. Because they're small, I've bolted them to the (concrete) floor of my study. I'm buying a big safe here once the new gun room is built.
I'm in the process of building an 8' x 14' concrete block "vault" in my pole shed, which is where my new gun safe will go. Also, all my ammo storage and reloading stuff as well. And yes, the safe will be bolted down.
It'll double as a tornado shelter, since we don't have a basement. Tornados don't happen this far west very often, only every 30 years or so, but when they do the loss of life tends to be horrendous since everything's built above ground.
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Lock, insure, take all available precautions, and pray...
All we can really do is make the job interesting for a burglar that is prepared.
Just a few of the tools I work with would make a 1,000 lb safe easy to move from about any location...
Hope all works out for the OP, and hope the bastards who broke in are busted...
or shot....
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I currently don't have a safe. Been looking, but what is the best way to anchor to a basement floor?
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Getting stuff up the stairs is sure a lot harder then watching it slide down them...:)
Would be interested to hear about bolting that would actually keep one put.
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... what is the best way to anchor to a basement floor? I'm not an expert on this, but I've done it a couple of times. What I've done is use drill a hole 6" deep into the concrete with a hammer drill, then drive in the best concrete anchor I could find at Lowe's and lock it in place with construction adhesive or epoxy. Then the bolts go down through the floor of the safe into the anchors. My current safes have four 5" long 3/8" bolts holding them down. I'm sure some of the construction whizzes on the 'Fire can give you better instructions than this, and I'm curious, too, because when my new safe arrives, I want it anchored.
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Armen:
Always sorry to hear of this happening. It certainly sounds like the thieves knew exactly what you had in your house. One of the toughest things about this kind of home security is keeping to a minimum the number of service people who see the safe.
Unfortunately, all too many have seen mine.
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Where could one get one of those? 
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Armen, just wondering if you had an alarm system in your home when the break in happened. We have an alarm system that is monitored by cell phone with a battery back up. I had it installed for my wife's protection when she worked nights. I was concerned some one would break in during the day while she was sleeping. Multi-layer security is the way to go. I'm sorry for your loss and hope you get your property back.
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Sorry to hear that you were robbed. I have always heard that most people buy a safe after the robbery. Just shows what criminals will go through to get your hard earned property. Mine weights 1700 lbs empty. Took 2 hours with a Bobcat to get it off the trailer and five feet in the garage. It can happen, just gonna be real hard with mine. The insurance is the key. Can't ever have to much. Most people don't even know the serial numbers on their guns. Pictures, videos, records, it's the only sure thing.
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Hope they find your safe intact with at least one of the bastids cold mangled body pinned under it !
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Very sorry to here this Armen, my safes are bolted down, but that is the last thing that better concern any thief/intruder here.
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Someone backed up to a friends house in a work service truck and cut the top of his safe off with a plasma torch that was mounted on the truck. I'm going to guess they were there only a few minutes.
If you watch the videos on youtube where they beat into gun safes as a demonstration they almost always tip it over flat so they can get leverage on it with their bar.
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... what is the best way to anchor to a basement floor? I'm not an expert on this, but I've done it a couple of times. What I've done is use drill a hole 6" deep into the concrete with a hammer drill, then drive in the best concrete anchor I could find at Lowe's and lock it in place with construction adhesive or epoxy. Then the bolts go down through the floor of the safe into the anchors. My current safes have four 5" long 3/8" bolts holding them down. I'm sure some of the construction whizzes on the 'Fire can give you better instructions than this, and I'm curious, too, because when my new safe arrives, I want it anchored. Bolted all mine the same way.
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Sorry to hear of this....I hope they catch the pieces of schit.
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It took two guys with the right equipment a couple of years ago to move a 1000pound safe off a trailer and into position in the house. They were not straining at any point to do this. They had just delivered another safe to a guy that had his prior safe hit the prior week. If it is not anchored they knock it over, and use big pry bars to pop the door. Or cut through the bottom. Safes are good to keep the casual two minute snatch and grab kind of guy, but dont' defeat the professional that knows what you have.
Given the op original post, i wonder if he wasn't targeted by somebody that knew what was there.
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I built the room around my safes, they will have to take out a little more than just a door frame to get them out. Only one of mine is bolted down, but I am going to get around to the other soon. It still will not stop really determined professionals but it may make them hunt easier prey.
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... what is the best way to anchor to a basement floor? I'm not an expert on this, but I've done it a couple of times. What I've done is use drill a hole 6" deep into the concrete with a hammer drill, then drive in the best concrete anchor I could find at Lowe's and lock it in place with construction adhesive or epoxy. Then the bolts go down through the floor of the safe into the anchors. My current safes have four 5" long 3/8" bolts holding them down. I'm sure some of the construction whizzes on the 'Fire can give you better instructions than this, and I'm curious, too, because when my new safe arrives, I want it anchored. Bolted all mine the same way. Epoxy bolts are better than wedge anchors. Wedge anchors can be worked out as apposed to epoxy they are solid if installed correctly and they would have to brake the bolts. It took me 6hours to move my safe to the back yard and another 3 hours to get it into position in the back room of my home. And I know how to move heavy things and have the equipment. They would have a quicker time just cracking mine. Sorry to hear about your loss. Hope things work out for you.
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Armen:
Always sorry to hear of this happening. It certainly sounds like the thieves knew exactly what you had in your house. One of the toughest things about this kind of home security is keeping to a minimum the number of service people who see the safe.
Unfortunately, all too many have seen mine.
Criminally inclined service people don't necessarily need to physically "see" a gun safe in a house that they are sizing up for a potential burglary. All it takes is for them to see some trophy taxidermy mounts like many of us have in our homes to conclude that it's highly probable that firearms/archery/hunting equipment is also present somewhere on the premises.
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Folks,
I never thought it would happen to me, but it did. My house was burglarized earlier this week.
The theives hauled off my entire >600-pound gun safe. All my firearms were in that safe, along with all my hunting optics.
The perps used my hand truck from the garage. Destroyed some wood flooring and drywall in the process of removing the safe (safe must have partially tipped over on them). There were at least two vehicles involved. The police said theives can do what they did to my home in my in less than 20 minutes.
I'm sharing this info with you because I had always thought home burglaries were usually smash & grab events and that they wouldn't spend time trying to haul off a 600-pound gun safe when there was plenty of other, "easier" objects to be taken in my home. Consequently, I didn't bolt the safe to the floor. I'm suffering the consequences of that choice now. Oh, and they took all the "easier" stuff, too.
Here's hoping this post prevents this from happening to any other readers on the 'Fire.
I kept approx. $1000 of loaded ammo locked in a separate Homak gun safe (basically just a stiff sheet metal cabinet with two key locks). They busted into it and cleaned that out, too. Also took all my primers.
If you have already bolted your safe to the floor, good on ya! If you haven't yet, do it now!!
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