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why does everyone say only shoot pure lead bullets from your muzzleloader? if your using a 240/300 gr 44 boolit with sabot out of your 50 cal, it has to be going faster than out of a 8" 44 mag revolver, which calls for harder than pure. so what am i missing here?

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In a sabot, sure you can do it. Make it any hardness you want. The thing with using soft lead naked projectiles in a ML is because it has to be small enough in diameter to load easily and soft enough to swell upon discharge so as to fill the grooves and provide a gas seal. There are exceptions to that rule, I'm sure, but that's the gist of it.

Then again, a soft projectile swathed in a sabot, will expand that much better upon striking the target than a hard one will. So why not use a soft one? I wouldn't take it as dogma, but it is a pretty good guide.

Also, oft times the really hard bullet in a magnum handgun (or rifle) is a detriment also. More leading is caused by gas cutting past the bullet (and melting the lead like a blow torch because the hard bullet didn't expand to fill the rifling) than by a softer bullet that does expand to fill the bore- all else being equal. Hard bullets aren't necessarily an enabler for high velocity.

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Most of the reason for non sabot rounds is you have to cut the rifling into the lead as it is pushed down. Pretty hard to do with a tight barrel and hard bullet.


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The only pure lead i shoot are full bore conicals. Usually they are slip fit for ease of loading. I shoot them around 1300-1350fps. I shoot sabot loads much faster and i seldom use soft lead bullets in sabots. Im sure it could be done if you really wanted.


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