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Yesterday my wife and I went to the county home for the aged to see her mother who is 86 years old and slipping mentally and physically. While there Dr. Oz came on TV and he had a special guest who was a neurologist (or one of those fields that specializes on the brain). They had a woman wired up in a kind of cloth helmet with electrodes on it and they were looking at the brain waves. The woman was a so-called "psychic". He began to spill out all this gobble-de-gook about how her brain waves were different than the average persons' and that gave her the ability to "see". Then the bombshell. He(the guest specialist) said that he was a skeptic until a psychic told him something about himself that was impossible for that person to know. (Yeh, right!) So he says that then he "believed" and started to investigate. He went on to say that "Biblical prophets were psychics". It really saddened me to see how many in the audience were in "awe". The woman that was "hooked up" then told a female in the audience that her loved ones that were gone cared for her and "were waiting on the other side for her". The poor deceived woman broke down in tears. Satan was appearing as an angel of light and these folks appeared to be swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. The enemy's deception is getting more intense as we approach the Day and many are falling victim. We need to pray against this darkness and testify against it when the opportunity arises.
The ironic thing is that folks that really believe this deception think Christians are wackos for their belief! Wow, just wow!
Later on I will relate a story about what happened to me when I was a Deputy Sheriff.
For all the education this specialist had he still is not aware that he will have to give an accounting of himself before God, that His prophets are not "psychics", and that without Christ he is lost.


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Soli Deo Gloria!

Funny how people will swallow a lie and choke on the truth of the Bible, isn't it? Paranormal stuff like that flies in the face of a holy God.

Sad how many take God completely out of the equation. What was said was true about her loved ones waiting on the other side but it didn't take a psychic to say it.

We are doing such a bang up job deceiving ourselves that Satan rarely has to get involved, other than starting the deception in the first place.

Please don't take this the wrong way RH but that was NOT true about loved ones waiting on the other side. Scripture tells us that there is heaven and hell. When a believer dies he is immediately in the Lord's presence. When an unbeliever dies they go to hell. We return with Christ to rule a thousand years; they await the Great White Throne Judgment and the Lake of Fire. So not all will wait on the "other" side. Jesus knows His sheep; this psychic doesn't have a clue about where the loved ones are of that lady she spoke to.

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Soli Deo Gloria!

I retired from the Sheriff's Dept in 2002. A couple of years before that I had to serve a property execution upon the owner of a business. It was a court order allowing me to take all the monetary contents of the cash register; and if locked, to take the register back to the station to have a locksmith open it. It was from a debt that she had ignored to pay and the debtor took her to court and she still did not pay.
When I get there it is a fortune teller and palm reader; and a psychic business. Nice store front in a nice part of the business district. When I went in she was in another room "reading" a palm. I could see her through those cheap rows of strung beads hanging in the doorway. Her helper asked what I wanted and I told him I would wait. She came out and a nicely dressed lady followed her. I then explained to her why I was there. She said " I had no idea you were coming". I then replied, "Really, I thought you were a fortune teller and psychic and could foresee the future?" She turned every shade of red and the other lady looked stunned and left. She then handed me the money. The Sheriff almost rolled on the floor when I retold the story.
I can't recall the exact Scripture but it says "Deceiving and being deceived" in reference to those who don't believe God.

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Soli Deo Gloria!

Here are my thoughts on psychics...

The Scripture tells us that the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable.

I believe that some people are given a gift of Prophecy. I also believe that many, if not most of those people do not serve God with it. I also believe that they can hear and see things presented to them from the Spiritual World.

I believe that most psychics are fraudulent con artist, however some really have the gift of Prophecy. It's just that they don't hear from God or His angels. These psychics listen to demonic spiritual guides. Sometimes they will get truth, other times they will not. The purpose is always to deceive and to steer people away from talking with and listening to the Holy Spirit.

Basically, if you claim to be a psychic, then you are a servant of Satan and his cohorts.

Prophets of God know who they serve and who speaks to them and it isn't some 6th sense or "spirit guide"...

Exactly Hug. But those who don't know Christ and His Word are clueless.

Depends on how you define "waiting on the other side". If you mean some sort of limbo where everyone goes, then no. I was speaking of Heaven. We will still be the same people in Heaven. We won't be changed into angles or anything else. Remember the story of the rich man and Lazarus. There is also reference to the great cloud of witnesses.

Even those in hell will remember their loved ones, though they will be praying they don't join them.

(2 Timothy 3:13)

Context follows in verses 16 and 17 -- an inspired scripture which is profitable for four different things. Go figure!

It would seem the days 2 Timothy refers to are the present. I know most generations have believed the same, and often for good reason, but with the amount of information available today to allow one to discern the truth, and the amount of blindness that continues, I fear the end cannot be long in coming.

Not fear for myself and mine but for the lost. Still, we will keep the faith to the end.

Research has shown that psychics have no better accuracy than anyone else. Nostradamus had 1 big right guess in his life so he's hailed as the god of psychics yet his over all accuracy was tragic. Jean Dixon's accuracy rate was abysmal but she put out a good story line. A prophet of God is infallible when he's repeating what God told him.

Rock Chuck,

I always like your posts.

If you want a fun study on prophecy (or lack of it), tackle the Mormon prophets. They've been grossly inaccurate but the Mormons claim that they're infallible. Joseph Smith, for example, officially prophecied that his house in Navoo, IL, would house their prophets for all time. Then they moved to UT after he was killed.
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The classic one, though, was Brigham Young's Adam-God doctrine. Young said that Adam was god come to earth in his human body to populate the new planet. He brought one of his wives, Eve, with him. Later, Young said that god appeared to Mary in his human form and physically impregnated her (negating the virgin birth). This theory caused a firestorm with people saying that god sleeping with Mary was fornication so Young then changed it to have god bringing Gabriel with him to perform a marriage between him and Mary. They ignore the fact that Mary was already bound to Joseph so he jumped from fornication to adultery.

Young preached this for 20 years from his position as church prophet. He claimed infallibility on it. However, the idea was so outrageous that the Mormon church never made it their doctrine. Many individual Mormons believe it even today, but not the official church. Many Mormons will swear that Young never taught this but it's too well documented. You can even find references to it in copies of the Millennium Star, the Mormon church's official newspaper of the time.

In spite of the church rejecting this prophecy as false, they kept Young on the payroll as their official prophet. If they believed the Bible as they claim, they would have declared him to be a false prophet and stoned him to death.

Edited to add: Young goes hand in hand with the angel of light. After Smith died the Mormons had a big pow wow to choose his successor. There was a standoff between Young and one of Smith's sons. The Mormons claim that God caused Young to light up and glow, showing them which man was god's choice. If he did light up, I have my own opinions about just who caused him to glow.

RHClark

That psychic has no clue as to "where" that woman's loved ones are. I do not believe in purgatory or any limbo. What I was referring to was that the psychic cannot tell whether the loved ones spoken of were in hell or with the Lord; but lied in saying she knew they were waiting for her. Which is what psychics do best.

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Rock Chuck,

Your post about prophets reminded me of where I am in the Chronological Bible I am reading. Jeremiah was preaching judgment on Judah and Israel while the false prophets were preaching peace and prosperity. As it will also be in the end times.

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I don't believe in purgatory or limbo either. I have often assumed someone's loved ones were in Heaven when comforting someone over a death in the family. I never saw any reason to do otherwise, since I don't know for sure.

Hebrews 9:27 tells is, "It is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgement." That settles it for me.

I also believe that a wise approach.

This thread reminded me of this old Petr song...


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I usually say something like, "Well, if they have received the payment Jesus Christ made for our sins, then they're there. Have you trusted his death on the cross for your sins?"

I leave it at that unless they want to go further. Hard not to give them just a gentle witness at a time when eternal thngs seem so near and real.