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Is there any way to use this stuff in a 7-08? Have some left over from when I had a 300 wsm and I'd like to use it up in a 7-08 if possible. Doesn't have to be anything fancy. Just go bang and shoot clays at 100 yards or something for a youngster to learn on.
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Hodgdon doesn't list any loads for the 7mm-08 using Superformance powder ! Cast a careful eye on any data you receive from independent sources !
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I find it strange that this powder is for only a handful of rounds. Is it that quirky or is Hodgdon behind on working up loads?
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A little while back I asked Hodgon why they showed data for Super Performance in the 6.5 CM but not the .260. IIRC, they said they had an agreement with Hornady to not publish the data unless it provided 75fps velocity more with the same bullet than other propellants.
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The burn rate charts show Superformance to be slower than the 4831's. That's going to be too slow for the 7mm-08.
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Very interesting info gents. Thanks for the posts.
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The burn rate charts show Superformance to be slower than the 4831's. That's going to be too slow for the 7mm-08. Wonder how long it going to take for experimenters to work up loads for this powder. A high level hobbyist with pressure testing and chrono capacity should be able to handle the task. One would think there would be more data already on the internet. Superperformance data seems to be a large black hole. DF ed. for spelling.
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They don't list Leverevoltion (LVR) for the 356 and 358 Winchester either, but LVR shows nice velocity increases in the 338 Federal. Those rounds use similar powders.
I'm assuming they saw no gain with LVR in the 358?
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They don't list Leverevoltion (LVR) for the 356 and 358 Winchester either, but LVR shows nice velocity increases in the 338 Federal. Those rounds use similar powders.
I'm assuming they saw no gain with LVR in the 358? I was wondering the same thing??
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I tried Superformance in my 300 WSM and was disappointed with the results. Not nearly as accurate as Big Game and much slower, now it is just another can of powder that will sit on my shelf till the end of my days...
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I was thinking of getting some to run in my '06. Perhaps I'll pass and look at some of the Big Game loads or other Ramshot powders for it.
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I was thinking of getting some to run in my '06. Perhaps I'll pass and look at some of the Big Game loads or other Ramshot powders for it. Big Game works great in my 30-06, I had been happy with IMR-4064 pushing Barnes 168 TSX, very accurate (under 1� @ 200 Yards) and 2720 fps BUT a switch to Big Game pushed the speed up to 2906 and groups not as good but still 1� @ 100 yards. Happy with a MOA load that is nearly 200 fps faster!!
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I also tried it in my 300 wsm, I was getting higher speed and better accuracy with RL 17.
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They don't list Leverevoltion (LVR) for the 356 and 358 Winchester either, but LVR shows nice velocity increases in the 338 Federal. Those rounds use similar powders.
I'm assuming they saw no gain with LVR in the 358? I was wondering the same thing?? IIRC,they stated somewhere,that they would only publish data for rounds that showed a significant increase .
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I was thinking of getting some to run in my '06. Perhaps I'll pass and look at some of the Big Game loads or other Ramshot powders for it. Find some Hunter. I use 59.0 grains under a 180 gr NP. Fast and accurate. P
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Thanks, I'll look around for some. Good info here and I'm glad I bumped into it. Thanks guys.
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For the OP ref the 7-08. I owned a 700 CDL in 7-08 that I should have never sold but it went to a kid that needed a good deer rifle. My best performing powders were W760 and Varget. I shot 139's 145's and 160's using those powders and everything was sub MOA in that rifle and the only work to it was adjusting the trigger weight and sear. As far as Superformance in the 7-08 I'm thinking it would be like using RL25, H1000 or similar powder in an '06. You could but it wouldn't be very efficient. You might want to find a buddy that could swap you something more geared to the 7-08 for the superformance.
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For the OP ref the 7-08. I owned a 700 CDL in 7-08 that I should have never sold but it went to a kid that needed a good deer rifle. My best performing powders were W760 and Varget. I shot 139's 145's and 160's using those powders and everything was sub MOA in that rifle and the only work to it was adjusting the trigger weight and sear. As far as Superformance in the 7-08 I'm thinking it would be like using RL25, H1000 or similar powder in an '06. You could but it wouldn't be very efficient. You might want to find a buddy that could swap you something more geared to the 7-08 for the superformance. But, what's the Superperformance good for? I have a can and not a clue where to use it. If I was sub it for H4831 or RL22, what load would I use? Would I take the three or four published loads and extrapolate the charge for an unlisted round? Before I try all that, I'll pick up a can of another powder and move on. And as posted earlier, that can of Superperformance will just sit on the shelf. DF
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Well that's kind of where it sits on the burn chat, between H4831 and RL 22 or W780. That venture is up to you if you want to work with it and find a load. It's been done before. I know they use a blend of superformance for the Hornady factory ammo perhaps a call or e-mail to them might yield a usable solution.
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I fired Hodgdon an e-mail to see if they have anything for you. I'll let you know if and when they get back to me. Don't light it off as a roman candle just yet
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