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They shut down Wichita, KS with 2,000 jobs, moved 200 select employees to OKC.
Just in time for the tornados.
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They shut down Wichita, KS with 2,000 jobs, moved 200 select employees to OKC.
Just in time for the tornados.
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Yep it was a total union busting move. Not that that breaks my heart but it turned out to be not more than a corperate take away from employess their most valued resource to hear them talk to a total large hand out to greedy corperate officers.
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I know quite few guys that work at Boeing. Some in IT, management and some on the line. Have not heard any positive pro union stories from any of them.
A contractor went to repair a machine in the plant. he arrived earlyin the morning. Union contract stipulated he had to be accompanied by a union member at all times. He met met by a union member in the morning. Told by union member that union member had his break and contractor to wait. 2 hours later union member returns and said he has lunch. So contractor had to waito again to do repair. mind you all this time the line is down so no work for many union people in the factory. Two hours later union guy returns from lunch accompanies contractor to machine. 15 min later told stop work as union member's break. he stops working and waits. An hour later union member returns and says come back next day to finish 30 min repair.
Why is Boeing leaving Washington state again?
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I know quite few guys that work at Boeing. Some in IT, management and some on the line. Have not heard any positive pro union stories from any of them.
A contractor went to repair a machine in the plant. he arrived earlyin the morning. Union contract stipulated he had to be accompanied by a union member at all times. He met met by a union member in the morning. Told by union member that union member had his break and contractor to wait. 2 hours later union member returns and said he has lunch. So contractor had to waito again to do repair. mind you all this time the line is down so no work for many union people in the factory. Two hours later union guy returns from lunch accompanies contractor to machine. 15 min later told stop work as union member's break. he stops working and waits. An hour later union member returns and says come back next day to finish 30 min repair.
Why is Boeing leaving Washington state again?
Because they want all employees union and non union to take a 40 to 60% cut in pay. They have already forced many IT works out by outsourcing and they leave and go to the new company many times in the same place they worked the day before for 40 to 60% less. It sure would be interest to know who really owns those outsource companies and how much money is flowing back into the hands up upper bOEING management?
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They shut down Wichita, KS with 2,000 jobs, moved 200 select employees to OKC.
Just in time for the tornados.
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Yep it was a total union busting move. Not that that breaks my heart but it turned out to be not more than a corperate take away from employess their most valued resource to hear them talk to a total large hand out to greedy corperate officers. I've heard that, but the guys that moved were union members. When they go to a non-union area, do they give up the union? I haven't heard that to be a condition of their employment in OKC. DF
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Things were so good at bOEING in 1999 the non union salaried employees damn near voted in a union. That doesn't happen in good companies. Not that a union was the real answer but sometimes people get tired of being treated like [bleep]!
After the vote failed bOEING startd the mass outsourcing of IT.
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6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions.
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6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. Dont kid yourself those bOEING stikers were not getting one bOEING dime. I might add they were also getting very little from their unyine.
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Have to agree about the outsourcing of production though.
My understanding is that it is part of the buying contracts with countries they sell their planes to. Kind of a jobs for planes agreement.
does not seem to be working out very well for Boeing meeting deadlnes and quality control
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Have to agree about the outsourcing of production though.
My understanding is that it is part of the buying contracts with countries they sell their planes to. Kind of a jobs for planes agreement.
does not seem to be working out very well for Boeing meeting deadlnes and quality control Yah that was a great idea wasn't it. It made the 787 three years late and damn near distoryed the Boing co.
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6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. So... Just how is an on strike worker on Boeings dime? You sound like you're full of [bleep].
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So where did the striking union members get the money to pay for the big tents, vehicles, gas, booze to get wasted, hunting licenses to go elk hunting? if they became injured who would pay for their medical insurance? From whom did they receive money to feed their family and purchase their home? Boeing or their union? Please provide proof I thought poor mistreated starving workers on strike stayed home to save money or walked a picket line? I had to work during the week while the poor starving mistreated Boeing union elk hunters partied in elk camp. No sympathy from me 6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. Dont kid yourself those bOEING stikers were no getting one bOEING dime. I might add they were also getting very little from their unyine.
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I know too many people and have non union brainwashed friends that have worked for Boeing many years and have heard the stories.
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So where did the striking union members get the money to pay for the big tents, vehicles, gas, booze to get wasted, hunting licenses to go elk hunting? if they became injured who would pay for their medical insurance? From whom did they receive money to feed their family and purchase their home? Boeing or their union? Please provide proof I thought poor mistreated starving workers on strike stayed home to save money or walked a picket line? I had to work during the week while the poor starving mistreated Boeing union elk hunters partied in elk camp. No sympathy from me 6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. Dont kid yourself those bOEING stikers were no getting one bOEING dime. I might add they were also getting very little from their unyine. Well you're clueless. When you go on stirke at boeing your medical benefits end and when what you have paid for runs out which is the end of that month. If you wanted extended benefits for you and your family it comes out of your pocket in the form of COBRA or some other private program you pay for. Let me tell you that you are very poorly informed or miss informed. You are hearing this from someone that has never belonged to a unyine.
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I know very well what the Boeing union workers receive don 't receive on strike. Did they receive back pay when off of strike? My union neighbor friend said he did. I was referring to working for Boeing in general. So Boeing does not provide any type of med insurance and retirement, vacation For it's union workers? Boeing only pays min wage.? Funny All the poorly paid Boeing union workers I know with just a HS education own houses, big boats, RV's , hunt and fish out of state. Those poor union workers! They should burn down Boeing factories for it's mistreatment So again uninsured,starving poorly paid striking Boeing union workers were forced to buy an elk license and party, drink all week at elk camp while I had to work? So where did the striking union members get the money to pay for the big tents, vehicles, gas, booze to get wasted, hunting licenses to go elk hunting? if they became injured who would pay for their medical insurance? From whom did they receive money to feed their family and purchase their home? Boeing or their union? Please provide proof I thought poor mistreated starving workers on strike stayed home to save money or walked a picket line? I had to work during the week while the poor starving mistreated Boeing union elk hunters partied in elk camp. No sympathy from me 6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. Dont kid yourself those bOEING stikers were no getting one bOEING dime. I might add they were also getting very little from their unyine. Well you're clueless. When you go on stirke at boeig your medical benefits end and when what you have paid for runs out which is the end of that month. If you wanted extended benefits for you and your family it comes out of your pocket in the form of COBRA or some other private program you pay for. Let me tell you that you are very poorly informed or miss informed. You are hearing this from someone that has never belonged to a unyine.
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Well at least your union and your donations help elect Patty Murray, Cantwell, Boxer, Feinstein and Obama. I"LL give your precious union credit for this. So where did the striking union members get the money to pay for the big tents, vehicles, gas, booze to get wasted, hunting licenses to go elk hunting? if they became injured who would pay for their medical insurance? From whom did they receive money to feed their family and purchase their home? Boeing or their union? Please provide proof I thought poor mistreated starving workers on strike stayed home to save money or walked a picket line? I had to work during the week while the poor starving mistreated Boeing union elk hunters partied in elk camp. No sympathy from me 6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. Dont kid yourself those bOEING stikers were no getting one bOEING dime. I might add they were also getting very little from their unyine. Well you're clueless. When you go on stirke at boeing your medical benefits end and when what you have paid for runs out which is the end of that month. If you wanted extended benefits for you and your family it comes out of your pocket in the form of COBRA or some other private program you pay for. Let me tell you that you are very poorly informed or miss informed. You are hearing this from someone that has never belonged to a unyine.
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They pay you for what you have worked so if they owed you for days when you went on strike you get paid for that.
if they became injured who would pay for their medical insurance?
From whom did they receive money to feed their family and purchase their home?
It comes out of their pocket short the $75 a week the unyine gives them while they are on strike. You really need to get your [bleep] packed into small tighter balls if you're going to talk to someone that knows.
You get no vacation pay when the unyine is on strike. Boeing would pay minimum wage if they could get away with it.
As for edafacated people if you're one you still don't know the facts about this you're as blind as [bleep]!
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Unions sure helped Detroit, Pittsburgh, Akron and Bethlehem out.
They take their members money, give it to Dimocraps and they help the US out.
Pushing the open borders has really helped the American workers out, too.
It wouldn't be a stretch to say unions have helped the muzzy brotherhood in Egypt get $1.5 billion and a bunch of Air Force jets.
Well, anything to help the good ole brotherhood, even if it means no drilling in the Gulf and no keystone and $3.50 gas. At least the muzzy brotherhood gets gas at 6 cents a gallon.
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Unions help union out don't kid yourself they are the closest thing to politicos you can find. But frankly they happen most time due to poor management. Then everyone loses.
I had a friend in the food business and they union tried to keep forcing their way into his business. One day the local union people came in and he said here look at my books tell me where I'm going to find the money you are trying to get out of me. The Union person said that's not our problem.
The following Monday he put his business up for sale the union people went nuts. He told them to FOAD and retired at 48. Not rich but comfortabley.
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Your precious union lost all of my remaining sympathy when you and your union helped elect Obama in 2008. You union people made your bed when you became a money laundering tool for radical socialists. Time to lay in your union bed. Your protests are falling on deaf ears here. I worked in a union environment and so has my wife. I saw how "hard" union members worked. Both the sober and non sober ones. We both chose to not work in that environment again 6 or 7 years ago elk hunting in e Washington I drove by an elk camp with about 2 doz Boeing on strike signs posted around the elk camp. apparently the union guys were on strike while out elk hunting on Boeing's dime. I stopped to talk to them. Half of them were three sheets to the wind at 9 in the morning. Thought it was pretty funny. Those awful Boeing working conditions. So... Just how is an on strike worker on Boeings dime? You sound like you're full of [bleep].
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