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Based on what I have read, the Bob seems like the cartridge that I need to compliment my 30.30 to start my kids on. The problem is, this round comes with a lot of rules. Long action vs. short action, it is a reloaders round etc. How do you know which action the manufacturer builds their gun on? Who wants to buy a new rife and it only shoot very light or very heavy bullets? I can reload for it but future generations may not want to. Is there any chance that new gun chambered in .257 Roberts will shoot factory ammo accurately? The .25-06 seems to come with less strings attached but I am told that the Bob has less recoil and report, making it ideal for kids.
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yup. all true. we all need one 
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I prefer the Bob round in a short action. If you're doing a long action, just do a 25-06. And I'm speaking of Rem 700's because I'm not at all a Winchester bolt fan.
I've got Kimbers and Remingtons and Rugers and Mauser customs chambered for the round as well as the AI version of it. I don't shoot any factory rounds, but I recently simplified my life and just started reloading all of my Bobs to factory COL and haven't looked back. And I'm getting good accuracy. Any factory round will work in any modern factory 257 rifle.
Don't sweat others' "rules". I don't follow others' rules when it comes to the Bob and I absolutely love the cartridge.
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Kimber 84M: Also never had a Kimber before. Seems like the Kimbers get great reviews. Only hesitation is the true short action might limit bullets and seating options.
Of those listed I'd do this one hands-down, although I'm of the opinion that a Bob oughta be built on an intermediate mauser '98... preferably a small ring like a Husky or Mexican. I don't say that because of any limitation on action length, but because that is what the round was designed for and because I love well done classy Mauser customs. Similarly, the issue of short actions and bullets/seating is a settled one in my mind. It has been reviewed ad nauseum around here and there isn't any real issue there. Kimber for sure.
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Based on what I have read, the Bob seems like the cartridge that I need to compliment my 30.30 to start my kids on. The problem is, this round comes with a lot of rules. Long action vs. short action, it is a reloaders round etc. How do you know which action the manufacturer builds their gun on? Who wants to buy a new rife and it only shoot very light or very heavy bullets? I can reload for it but future generations may not want to. Is there any chance that new gun chambered in .257 Roberts will shoot factory ammo accurately? The .25-06 seems to come with less strings attached but I am told that the Bob has less recoil and report, making it ideal for kids. I have honestly found it not to be that big a deal. I load 100 g SP's and H4350 per Mule Deer's recipe and it shoots just fine. I've got no interest in hot-rodding the cartridge. It burns less powder than a .25-06, so yes it has less recoil and report. If you want something more universal for the non-handloader with more readily available ammo that has bob-like ballistics, just get a .243. Having the rifle favor lighter or heavier bullets is a problem that you would run into with factory rifles in just about any caliber.
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Those Kimber Select Grade's are beautiful!
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My 257 was built by the Savage Custom shop on a short action that allows an OAL of 2.900+" With minimal load development, it will give 1.00" with 100 gr Nosler Partition, and smaller with the 115 gr Ballistic Tip. I found out last year what the 100 Partition will do to a nice 10 pt. whitetail, and hopefully this season will find out how the 115 gr Ballistic Tip works, not that I have any doubts.
With the Accustock and AccuTrigger, I am very happy with the minimal recoil and good accuracy the Savage gives me.
I like the 257 Roberts, and will probably rebarrel my Tikka 7-08 to the "Bob" in the near future.
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Recently picked up a RH Win M70 SS Classic in 7mm08. Once all of the left over 7mm08 ammo in the house is burnt up, action will go to Douglas Barrels to become a .257 Roberts. Nominally for the grand daughter since it is a RH rifle. But, more just because I haven't played with a .257 before. Looking for first hand experience to compare with my .243's.
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i think we should call those "Kim Bobs" like jim bob.
stupid i know, but it made me chuckle.
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As several have said, the Bob does very well without hot-rodding. Mine is a 1909 Argentine Mauser, a Douglas featherweight throated for 3" OAL, and a nice stick of Claro purchased from Pachmayr in the mid-70's when they still sold wood and did inletted, profiled blanks. I stopped at ~2900 fps with a 100 gr. Ballistic Tip-3 hot groups around an inch, very mild recoil, kills everything it's pointed at.
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Of course you need a Roberts. Doesn't everyone need one or two or three or.......
Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
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I'm working on #3. I have a pre-64 M70 in a Roberts and have used a Kimber Montana in 257 Roberts for the last couple of years for Wyo speedgoats.
I am still looking for a Ruger that will shoot well and just made a deal on a 77 MKII Ultralight in 257 Bob. Haven't got it yet, but very anxious to try it.
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Mine's an A Bolt II White Gold Medallion. Never thought I'd have a stainless rifle but couldn't resist this one. Limited edition, 1 of 50.
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I have a 257 Hawkeye and a Kimber, much to my surprise. Prepare yourself, though, as the Ruger I have had an extremely short throat. When lengthened, it is very nice. The Kimber throat could be lengthened, but the mag is too short to load the longer rounds.
Overall, if I had to choose something for heavier than about 90 gr, I would have to go with the Ruger. The Kimber is without doubt a finer rifle and weighs a good bit less.
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Have a M77 MKII and thinking about a Kimber. As long as I have deer to hunt I won't willingly be without one.
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