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Originally Posted by MileHighShooter

Have you considered the 350 Rem Mag? If done on a re-barreled M70 or the Montana, you get the 3.1" mag box and won't crowd the powder with longer bullets.


Not totally off my radar.


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Originally Posted by blargon
Ruger M77 Frontier came in .358 win as well, though I'd be more inclined to do something with a 20" barrel


Agreed. The frontier would be great if I ever intended to do a scout scope setup, just can't get my eyes to like one much. I had a Leupold EER on my Marlin GG for a short while and ended up taking it off.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
how about a 338-06?

sayin'.


Would be a totally great alternative, but just feeling something .35 for this gun for some reason. Purely just a want.


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controlled feed?....build yourself a Whelen something along these lines...


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...694007/Re_Model_70_35_Whelen#Post7694007


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Originally Posted by rembo
controlled feed?....build yourself a Whelen something along these lines...


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...694007/Re_Model_70_35_Whelen#Post7694007


I oogled over that thread when you first posted it. I'm yet to have a model 70 in my collection for some reason. I need to change that.


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I held a really nice bad weather set up Whelen a couple years ago at the Kittery Trading Post in Maine. It had a Brown Precision stock and a No 3 barrel at 26" and felt awesome!

Are you looking for blue/walnut or some sort of bad ass wallace type rigging?


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Looking for stainless/synthetic. Will probably stay with the stock handle for a while, but eventually find its way into something from McMillan.


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Originally Posted by FFemt5287
Originally Posted by bluefish
how about a 338-06?

sayin'.


Would be a totally great alternative, but just feeling something .35 for this gun for some reason. Purely just a want.


If you want a .35 Whelen go with a Whelen. I wanted the .338-06, but I'd imagine I'd warm up quickly to a Whelen like the rifle I just built. However I have two Whelen rifles already and wanted another .338-06.

Weaver Rifles .338-06, all up weight 8lbs 9oz with cheap Allen nylon speed sling and 6 rounds in it.

M70 Classic SS action
Pac-Nor SS Super Match barrel, #3 Shilen contour, 24" long, 1:10 twist, 3 groove, and recessed crown
McMillan Hunters Edge stock inlet for Montana action and #3 Shilen with 1.5" shank (found on campfire classifieds)
Talley LWT extended mounts
Leupold VX3 2.5-8X36 B&C reticle


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Kevin filled in the stock and matched the color pretty well where the bolt release was for the Montana action.

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.350 Rem Mag!

Perfect short-action thumper. I have a Remmy Classic and a Win 70 stainless. Haven't decided which to keep yet because I like them both too much.


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Mod. 70 S/S Classic
Rebored 35 Whelen
1-12" Twist 24" Barrel
Talley LWT's
Leupold 2.5-8X36 B&C

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All up weight about 8.75lbs





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I also have been look at the 35 but I leaned towards the 35 Whelen, but want one in a 1903 action.

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Model 7 CDL 350 mag. . You don't need a Stainless unless you have to have it. Leopold 2.5X 8, Talley rings .It will do any thing these woods can offer.

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Originally Posted by FFemt5287
Originally Posted by Plateau Hunter
.358 Win in Ruger Hawkeye


This is the way I'm leaning. Can be had in a fairly compact, light-ish package, and seems like a really nice cartridge for my purposes. I'm thinking a 2-7x Leupold VXii scope and a nearly perfect deer rifle for me.


This is the way I'd roll. Very handy dandy...

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Originally Posted by Taconic11
Model 7 CDL 350 mag. . You don't need a Stainless unless you have to have it. Leopold 2.5X 8, Talley rings .It will do any thing these woods can offer.


Definitely a want thing on the stainless. Same with the CRF.


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FF, pay no attention to what the rest of us have, want, or like. Get what you want. The .358 in a stainless Ruger will surely kill deer very dead. Best, jack


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I have a great deal of experience with the 35 whelen both in bolt guns and a pump. I think this is one of the best calibers ever created. Recoil isn't bad even with heavy weight bullets (310 grains). Also while you often have to special order it factory ammo is available and varied.

I am looking to get into the 358 win myself in a small carbine for deer, black bear, hogs. I have seen the 358 win put bear and hogs down like a lightening bolt, I know many have mentioned this already but factory ammo is problematic. Hornady has some new 200 grain stuff out, I saw it for 31 dollars at cabelas, but that could be here today and out of production tomorrow.

Anyways reloading components for both calibers are readily available and fairly cheap, brass can be made from their parent cartridges easy and their are great bullets available for almost every game animal under the sun.

I also have experience with 358 norma, which frankly isn't worth the recoil in my opinion. Besides the 35 rem and 357 rem max which would make a decent black bear gun for you I have little else experience. Welcome to the 35 & 9.3 club, once your in your hooked for life!!!

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FF..welcome aboard...I am from Berlin and still belong to Mattbassett R&P.

.35s...some questions:

Style of hunting:
Stand
Still hunting
Tree stand

Average distance of shots?

Overall picture of the rifle, a light weight carbine (20 or less inch barrel with a short action), light rifle (22" barrel with short or long action) or "standard" rifle (long action with 22-24" barrel).

Light Carbine: Short action Remington Model SEVEN/700 or a Winchester/Montana short action. 18-20" light weight barrel in either .358 Winchester or .350 Remington Magnum.

Light Rifle: Same actions/calibers as above but in a long action add .35 Whelen.

Standard Rifle: .35 Whelen


You sound like you already have the Standard and Heavy rifle area covered with the .257BOB, .300Winni and .375H&H...question is do you have/need something short and lightweight for still hunting and heavy woods tree stands other than the 30-30?

If so then I would look at the .358 and .350RM in your favorite short action with no more than a 20" barrel. But if you like long actions just go .35 Whelen.

The .358 Ruger 77s and 77MKIIs are HEAVY and quite frankly under powered for their size and weight. The .358 and .350RM were made for short action, short barreled, light weight carbines.

I've had 8 .358s and .350s mainly because I like short action bolt guns. Right now I have:

Remington Custom Shop Model 7KS/.350RM
Remington 600/.350RM
Ruger 77MKII/.350RM (barrel shortened to 18.25")
Montana Rifle Co. 1999 short action 22"/.350RM
Ruger Frontier/.358

The Remingtons both weight about 7# loaded ready to hunt. The Rugers are a pound heavier and built like tanks. The Montana has a standard 22" #3 taper and weights 9# loaded with sling and scope... Because the bullets can be seated out to 3+" 200s can be pushed over 2900 and 250s over 2700 fps...that is Norma velocities.

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600/1.5-5 Leupold 30mm

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600/2X IER scope

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Montana/2.5-8 Leupold

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Frontier with standard Ruger synthetic stock/Leupold IER scope

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Frontier with original laminated stock and 1.5-5 Leupold

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Ruger/1.5-6 Tasco Titan

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Remington 7KS/1.75-6 Leupold

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The 7KS is the best short to intermediate range hunting rifle I've ever owned...lots of power in a short light package.

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Bob, fantastic looking rifles and thank you for the insightful response. Majority of the hunting I've experienced thusfar has been either still hunting, hunts from ground blinds/minimally elevated stands (both permanent wood boxes about the size of outhouses), and sitting on those same stands for drives (way upstate NY).

In terms of other short, handy rifles, I've a marlin 45/70 guide gun and the 336 30-30. I'm looking to buy something in the 20-24" barrel range with capabilities out to 200-250yds or so. I limit myself there based on the limitations of my practice ranges to 200yds max at the two gun clubs I belong to. I trucked along my 10# all up CZ550 .375H&H with a 25" barrel and Leupold euro30 1.25-4x all last season (as overkill as that may be for deer...), so something in the 7-8# range should feel like a dream.


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I alluded to a 35 Whelen I used this spring; it was an old ruger tang safety which had been rebarrelled to the 35 with a No 3 sporter at 26" and it was a dream. Nice slim stock and did it ever point! don't sell yourself short on a longer barrel as they point well and if the balance is between the hands you'll love it.


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Being a SA fan and not just hunting deer, I went .350 Rem Mag and absolutely love it!
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That being said, if I were only hunting woods deer I would be highly motivated to build a LW .358 Win. My specs for said build would be as follows:

SA Rem 700
McMillan Mountain Rifle stock
20" SS Pac-Nor #2 with 1" shank
Shilen trigger set to 2.5lbs
Talley LW's and a straight 4X33 Leupold


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