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Just saw on the news that an entire hot-shot team was killed today figthing this fire. The attached article doesn't mention it but I guess the latest is that more than 200 homes burned. I didn't think there were that many home in Yarnell! Really sad. Probably going to be the most tragic wildlands fire in the history of the country in terms of lives lost. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=9157763
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Thanks for posting... prayers go out for both the deceased and the families of them...
tragic loss for sure...
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That's terrible news. Prayers sent from here, for all affected by the tragedy.
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Terrible. I remember reading about the Storm King fire mentioned in the last paragraph of the article. Think I saw a movie or TV show about that one too. Prayers for the families.
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I've many years of wild land under my belt and Storm King was one of them. Have had to deploy the emergency shelter and luckily it worked for us albeit feeling like jiffy pop while waiting it out.
My heart hurts for those firefighter and their loved ones. True heroes doing a horribly tough job who paid the ultimate sacrifice.
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That really hits close to home!
We lived in Prescott, just a few miles up 89 from Yarnell, for twelve years. We raised our son, Ben ("Skalkaho" here), there from when he was six until he went off to NAU. Now he's an EMT in the Flagstaff fire department and is often out on Arizona forest fires.
And I wonder whether the Art Morrison mentioned in that article is the Art Morrison whom I knew when we lived there.
If flickering memory isn't bugging me, this is the third time when Forest Service fire-fighters have been killed on the job � the Mann Gulch fire in Montana in the late '40s or early '50s, a fire in Colorado in the '90s (Storm King?), and now this one � which is the worst such loss of life, number-wise, I think.
IIRC, the Mann Gulch fire led to the development of those shelters (aluminized Mylar, I think). One of my professors at MSU lost his son there. That fire also inspired an early Richard Widmark, Richard Boone movie (Red Skies of Montana), filmed at the old remount depot west of Missoula and the Hamilton airport.
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I borrowed this picture from another site, I'll leave it up for a time. The pain of the families and friends of 19 men, unfathomable. May all find peace...
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Did some checking �
Mann Gulch � 1949 � 13 smoke-jumpers Storm King � 1994 � 14 BLM smoke-chasers
Now this one! 19 hot-shots!
I'm reminded of the heart-felt ejaculation from the reporter who was watching the Hindenburg burn in 1937 � "Oh, the humanity!"
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That really hits close to home!
We lived in Prescott, just a few miles up 89 from Yarnell, for twelve years. We raised our son, Ben ("Skalkaho" here), there from when he was six until he went off to NAU. Now he's an EMT in the Flagstaff fire department and is often out on Arizona forest fires.
And I wonder whether the Art Morrison mentioned in that article is the Art Morrison whom I knew when we lived there.
If flickering memory isn't bugging me, this is the third time when Forest Service fire-fighters have been killed on the job � the Mann Gulch fire in Montana in the late '40s or early '50s, a fire in Colorado in the '90s (Storm King?), and now this one � which is the worst such loss of life, number-wise, I think.
IIRC, the Mann Gulch fire led to the development of those shelters (aluminized Mylar, I think). One of my professors at MSU lost his son there. That fire also inspired an early Richard Widmark, Richard Boone movie (Red Skies of Montana), filmed at the old remount depot west of Missoula and the Hamilton airport.
These memories of old times aren't coming back with any sort or smidgen of pleasure. I don't know if it is the art morrison you are thinking of, who i knew too, but eventually i will know. There are quite a few homes these days around the yarnell/peoples valley area by the way. That is real thick mesquite stuff in there. I patroled/hunted etc in there most of my life.
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Pretty rough. I knew a smoke jumper that was killed in the Storm King fire. If it's like it used to be some of the hotshot crews are college kids on summer break, but I guess this was a local fire department crew.
From what I read they found them dug in and in their emergency shelter which is like a space blanket.
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Pretty rough. I knew a smoke jumper that was killed in the Storm King fire. If it's like it used to be some of the hotshot crews are college kids on summer break, but I guess this was a local fire department crew.
From what I read they found them dug in and in their emergency shelter which is like a space blanket. Same here Nathan, grew up playing baseball against one of the Prineville shots that lost his life on Storm King and worked with the crew on occasion after the incident during the summers chasing smoke in the west. Bad deal...
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Article this morning said that all 19 men deployed their fire shelters, but only a few had time to get in... and even they didn't survive. Must have been a very, very hot, and very, very fast fire.
Prayers going out to their families today.
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prayers for the firefighters, families, friends. meighbors, and agency personnel. they've all got so much to work through.
yet another tragedy.
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A previous thread about the same; https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...ldland_Firefighters_and_thei#Post7860638
It was the granite mountain hotshots. For those not knowing the area, yarnell is on the edge of the plateau, going down a steep run to the bottom and congress/then wickenburg. That is real tuff country in there. That covers areas like stanton, octave, and so on, historic silver producing areas. I had heard that it started along the hassayampa river. There isn't words.
I guess this was a local fire department crew.
http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2013/06...n-arizona-fire/Those firefighters were seasoned professionals that got trapped in a devastating turn of events with the Yarnell fire. R.I.P. brave men......my condolences to their families in this time of loss and sorrow.
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Heroes. My Prayers and my Salute to those Men and their families. We are so fortunate and Honored to have such Men stand on the line for us.
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My Godson is a smoke jumper here in BC(We call them Rapid Attack).My prayers go to the families of these brave young men.Why must it be that we always lose the best of of each generation. Monashee
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