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..with another Fast & Furious gun that he gave to the cartels. The rug is getting a pretty big hump from all the chit they're sweeping under it. [bleep] RINOs are just letting this silde, like everything else. Gutless [bleep]. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-atf-fast-furious-20130705,0,2692834.story By Richard A. Serrano
July 5, 2013, 12:45 p.m.
WASHINGTON�A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF�s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Department of Justice records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.
Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.
Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons � rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region.
A semi-automatic WASR rifle, the firearm that killed the chief, was traced back to the Lone Wolf Trading Company, a gun store in Glendale, Ariz. The notation on the Department of Justice trace records said the WASR was used in a �HOMICIDE � WILLFUL � KILL �PUB OFF �GUN� �ATF code for �Homicide, Willful Killing of a Public Official, Gun.�
Hundreds of firearms were lost in the Fast and Furious operation. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed illegal purchasers to buy the firearms at the Lone Wolf store in the Phoenix suburb and other gun shops in hopes of tracing them to Mexican cartel leaders.
The WASR used in Jalisco was purchased on Feb. 22, 2010, about three months into the Fast and Furious operation, by 26-year-old Jacob A. Montelongo of Phoenix. He later pleaded guilty to conspiracy, making false statements and smuggling goods from the United States and was sentenced to 41 months in prison.
Court records show Montelongo personally obtained at least 109 firearms during Fast and Furious. How the WASR ended up in the state of Jalisco, which is deep in central Mexico and includes the country�s second-largest metropolis, Guadalajara, remained unclear.
After the shooting in Jalisco, local officials said some of the suspects confessed to two other shootouts in the area, including one that left seven people dead, all part of the continuing feud by rival cartel members.
The ATF declined to discuss the matter; officials said they are still compiling an inventory of all the lost firearms for a complete account of the Fast and Furious operation.
Instead of being tracked, almost all the weapons were lost as they flooded across the border into Mexico. In all, some 211 people were killed or wounded by Fast and Furious weapons in Mexico, according to Mexican authorities. And on this side of the border, a Fast and Furious weapon was found at the Arizona scene where U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was slain in 2010.
Terry�s slaying set off a number of investigations in Washington into Fast and Furious. It led to the firing or demotion of many ATF officials, including the agency�s acting director, who stepped down. It ultimately prompted the GOP-controlled House to vote Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over a number of Fast and Furious records sought by the House Oversight Committee.
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In Hillery's words, "what does it matter", or J. Carney's, "that was a long time ago".
Nothing will happen to Holder or Obama. Our RINO's will make sure of that.
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No one cares but us and we don't count. kwg
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They have already gotten away with F&F and nothing else will be done, it is over and the Government Covered it up.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Kinda funny (Not Ha Ha) how the "Law & Order", statist crowd avoids discussing F&F, etc., yet howl & shriek at LE abuses being pointed out & defend RINOs nearly as rabidly as many bad cops.
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just how can that pos holder still be the ag? there is no rule of law as far as this misadministration goes. makes me sick to see where this great country has gone.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee
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just how can that pos holder still be the ag? there is no rule of law as far as this misadministration goes. makes me sick to see where this great country has gone. Because he is the favorite son of the liberal left and 53% of Americans don't care. kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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Is it any wonder they're so afraid of us that they are hellbent on disarming us. It will take a collapse of the country and their house of cards to spur The People into a violent overthrow and restoration of The Republic.
I don't see it happening in the near future. The fascist dark dictator has sufficient resources at hand to keep the sheeple penned and fed, and he has his private DHS army, led by a bull dyke, to whip strays back into the flock.
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Yes the Democrat party an Two gutless Rewpublem for sure right John, Az. An Linsay G.With no impeachment, or jail time with matters of Obama screw up an illeagle doing just a slap on the azz .They say good job done
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No one cares but us and we don't count. kwg Ain't that the sad truth? L.W.
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A pretty heavily edited condensation of this article appeared in our paper this morning. What the condensed version would lead the reader to believe (some of us are better informed) is that one weapon is just now causing damage to the populace.
Every day in our paper I can find stuff like this where details are left out and it makes the isues at hand seem less treasonous than they are.
The net effect of that is a coverup.
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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In Hillery's words, "what does it matter", or J. Carney's, "that was a long time ago".
Nothing will happen to Holder or Obama. Our RINO's will make sure of that. The Republicans will only go so far in holding Democrats accountable for their crimes because they know they have enough of their own crimes (most of them) to get them into trouble if they do.
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Just a thought -
What happened to:
"Guns do not kill people. People kill people."
F&F needs argument and action against, no question to me -
but not more so, because a Chief of Police (RIP) fell victim to one of the rifles.
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It led to the firing or demotion of many ATF officials, including the agency�s acting director, who stepped down. It ultimately prompted the GOP-controlled House to vote Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr.
LOL you don't demote people like that you try them for conspiracy to murder.
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It led to the firing or demotion of many ATF officials, including the agency�s acting director, who stepped down. It ultimately prompted the GOP-controlled House to vote Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr.
LOL you don't demote people like that you try them for conspiracy to murder. That would be too extreme. Moderates rule. Just look at the last few GOP POTUS candidates and their apologists..
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