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Originally Posted by mtmuley
The BC's are holding up.


Would you mind referencing where this is documented? The only tests I've seen so far didn't go beyond 500 yards...

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Jordan,

A guy on LRH ran them to 1K in a 270win.Ive only ran them to 500 so far but hopefully will get to shoot a few at 1K this weekend.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/accubond-long-range-117118/index4.html

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Thanks!

I'd still like to see some more in-depth BC testing before giving the green light on the published BC numbers.

Let us know how your results turn out!

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Jordan, 805 gave the link of the test I read, and of course his test too. 16bore, I'll know more when I have more time to shoot longer. I think my RUM is gonna like them just fine. Hope to hunt muleys in the Missouri Breaks with them this fall. mtmuley

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Originally Posted by Silentstalker
Has anyone shot them into milk jugs, phone books etc to see how they hold up? The accuracy and b/c reports look great! Thanks!


I don't have anything out at long range yet, but I did all the load work at 200 yards. Best so far is RL25, with the 150 ABLR running 3140 out of my 270WSM.

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Then, after I shot that, I ran one into the ater jugs at about 8 yards to see how they would hold up.

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They have seemed to be pretty accurate right outta the gates for me. Speed is really good and they seem to be quite easy to get decent speeds for them.

This rifle might go along as my back up elk rifle this Fall. Did real well with 150 PT's and 140 AB's in the past..



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Another note about the 150's in the 270 and the 168's in the 7mm WSM, they both seemed to prefer to shoot a little better starting around .050" off. I know it isn't set in stone, just what I have seen with my two rifles and the new ABLR's. Have had pretty good luck with them so far.

I was planning on getting some more time to tweak the 168 load for the 7 today, but rain has kinda crushed that for today.


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I ran a few of the 7mm 168's from my 7wsm Montana on Saturday. The load I tried went about 1 moa at 100. I was running h1000 and they clocked right at 3000.

This afternoon I found some on the 150g 270's at sportsmans so I bought a box. I have a b series action 700 bdl in the basement that I picked up for a doner. It was very clean and in excellent shape so I never have torn it down. I just put a nitrex 3-9x42 on it and through together a few loads with the 150's over 7828 to try out. I've never been a big 270 fan but I've had a few and this load of 7828 used to run my 150 partitions at 3000 fps.

If this shoots with these AB LR's at 3000 it will have me considering a 270 again. I've got a few other long actions and some 1st gen ti barrels and I might be able to find a fluted Alaskan Ti barrel. I may be piecing together a loner/backup gun in 270. One good thing about 270's is that I can always get cheap brass and nosler usually has 2nds in that caliber.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I ran a few of the 7mm 168's from my 7wsm Montana on Saturday. The load I tried went about 1 moa at 100. I was running h1000 and they clocked right at 3000.

This afternoon I found some on the 150g 270's at sportsmans so I bought a box. I have a b series action 700 bdl in the basement that I picked up for a doner. It was very clean and in excellent shape so I never have torn it down. I just put a nitrex 3-9x42 on it and through together a few loads with the 150's over 7828 to try out. I've never been a big 270 fan but I've had a few and this load of 7828 used to run my 150 partitions at 3000 fps.

If this shoots with these AB LR's at 3000 it will have me considering a 270 again. I've got a few other long actions and some 1st gen ti barrels and I might be able to find a fluted Alaskan Ti barrel. I may be piecing together a loner/backup gun in 270. One good thing about 270's is that I can always get cheap brass and nosler usually has 2nds in that caliber.

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There are quite a few using 7828 and getting right at 3000 with the new 150 ABLR's. Pretty good accuracy too. I kinda thought with this new bullet, it'll breath a little life into the old 270's that have been collecting dust for awhile.


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3,000 FPS in a 270???? Schitfire and save matches.....

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Tried my old 7828 load with the 150 AB LR in a 22" bdl 270 win. Accuracy wasn't great but it clocked right at 2970 fps.

I don't want to burn a lot of powder and bullets in the old bdl doing load development because it's not a gun I'll likely hunt with. I may dig out the adl synthetic action I have and a 1st gen Ti 270 barrel and Ti take off stock and through together a faux Ti 270 this week.

I was thinking about rechambering a 7-08 Ti barrel I have to 280 AI and putting it on that action and in that stock but if I can get close to 3000 from these 270 AB LR 150's it'll be easier to just go that route.

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Interesting post there fellas. Maybe you can't make chicken salad outta chicken schit....
ABLR weight retention.....




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Well, Im glad the poster ran the little 100 and 110 test cause they did exactly what I thought they would do. I've seen those little suckers partitioned and they are amazing. They go down the tip to ogive and then get really really thick jacketed. Thicker than any other accubond I've seen. That bullet is designed for a special purpose...short to medium range close up hunting with the 6.8. Hog hunters are having a ball with those little 100/110 accubonds. I've got some here and am planning on doing some testing and using for wis deer hunting where shots are not over 100 yds in most cases. I WOULD NOT be using the long range accubond for the same.
The poster, I'm afraid, is living in a wishfull world where they would make a jacket like the little 100 accubond and have an accurate long range bullet. I'm not saying it isn't possible but I believe alot of the accuracy of that LRAB is coming from a thinner match grade jacket that can form to the barrel rifling better and most likely be made with better concentricity.
I can't argue that the LRAB will or won't hold up on elk shoulder at 100 yds. It isn't designed for that shot...but that doesn't mean you might not get that shot in the field.
I do beleive the real intent of the LRAB is for beanfield, powerline, tundra, pronghorn, .....wide open spaces hunting. Although some claim the bergers do it all...all the time I still don't think the perfect all around bullet exists....but just like picking a golf club for your next shot....the shooter can decide and pick what he thinks will work best.

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Heres those little 100/110 accubonds partitioned....note the huge diffs between those and others in the same wt class....

http://www.noslerreloading.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=18940

BTW....noslers new 3030 ballistic tip round nose for the 3030 is built alot like those little accubonds. Thin jacket and big hollow point at the top....about 40% down the bullet....kaboom...super thck jacket stopping further peel back.
They haven't picked up traction with the 3030 shooters but I think it might be the best bullet out there for the 3030. My marlin will put 5 under an inch at 100 yds.

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Damn, gotta' wonder how people ever killed elk with cup and core bullets for a bajillion years.

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And how did Jack Nicklaus play golf with a driver that wasn't as big as a boxing glove??!! LOL

How did Earl Anthony bowl 300 games w/o a bowling ball that hooked 2' in the last 3 ft of lane!

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16 thanks for the link. To me looks like pretty good performance from a bullet built to expand as low as 1300fps. Id take expansion like at 100 yards.

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Wonder why he don't just whack a fricken hog with it and see what happens. Milk jugs ain't critters. mtmuley

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Originally Posted by mtmuley
Wonder why he don't just whack a fricken hog with it and see what happens. Milk jugs ain't critters. mtmuley


Without a doubt. Hoping one of my buddie's in BC whacks a moose or an elk soon. He is running the 150 ABLR's out of his 280 Rem at around 3030FPS. I figure the terminal results from the 280 should be pretty close, but to be honest, they are still tougher than most plain jane cup and core bullets, so I am betting they are going to go deep enough on most large game. Plus, they will still have the energy for the longer shots to expand and still penetrate. I know they aren't a miracle bullet, but they aren't weaklings either.


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I pieced together a faux Ti in 270 win the other day and tried the 150 AB LR's over 7828 and h4831sc. It didn't like either load at all, maybe 3 moa. I still have to think that 6.5's and 7's dominate over 270's for long range. One high BC bullet is a good start for 270's but if your gun doesn't like it.....

I also tried the 7mm 150's in my Montana 7wsm. They clocked 3220 fps over 7828 and shot about 1.5" which is about average for this rifle. I might play with seating depths and charge weights a bit and see if I can dial it in a bit.

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If somebody wants to try a few I could part out a box and send some for 60 cents each plus shipping if you post your results after testing them. I don't have the time right now to work em up and test them like I want to. I have 7mm 168's and 150's and 270 150's.

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