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Great article! http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...rict-Gun-Control-And-Less-Crime-ViolenceA Harvard Study titled "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?" looks at figures for "intentional deaths" throughout continental Europe and juxtaposes them with the U.S. to show that more gun control does not necessarily lead to lower death rates or violent crime.
Because the findings so clearly demonstrate that more gun laws may in fact increase death rates, the study says that "the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths" is wrong.
For example, when the study shows numbers for Eastern European gun ownership and corresponding murder rates, it is readily apparent that less guns to do not mean less death. In Russia, where the rate of gun ownership is 4,000 per 100,000 inhabitants, the murder rate was 20.52 per 100,000 in 2002. That same year in Finland, where the rater of gun ownership is exceedingly higher--39,000 per 100,000--the murder rate was almost nill, at 1.98 per 100,000.
Looking at Western Europe, the study shows that Norway "has far and away Western Europe's highest household gun ownership rate (32%), but also its lowest murder rate."
And when the study focuses on intentional deaths by looking at the U.S. vs Continental Europe, the findings are no less revealing. The U.S., which is so often labeled as the most violent nation in the world by gun control proponents, comes in 7th--behind Russia, Estonia, Lativa, Lithuania, Belarus, and the Ukraine--in murders. America also only ranks 22nd in suicides.
The murder rate in Russia, where handguns are banned, is 30.6; the rate in the U.S. is 7.8.
The authors of the study conclude that the burden of proof rests on those who claim more guns equal more death and violent crime; such proponents should "at the very least [be able] to show a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that impose stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide)." But after intense study the authors conclude "those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared around the world."
In fact, the numbers presented in the Harvard study support the contention that among the nations studied, those with more gun control tend toward higher death rates.
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Great article! http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...rict-Gun-Control-And-Less-Crime-ViolenceA Harvard Study titled "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?" looks at figures for "intentional deaths" throughout continental Europe and juxtaposes them with the U.S. to show that more gun control does not necessarily lead to lower death rates or violent crime.
Because the findings so clearly demonstrate that more gun laws may in fact increase death rates, the study says that "the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths" is wrong.
For example, when the study shows numbers for Eastern European gun ownership and corresponding murder rates, it is readily apparent that less guns to do not mean less death. In Russia, where the rate of gun ownership is 4,000 per 100,000 inhabitants, the murder rate was 20.52 per 100,000 in 2002. That same year in Finland, where the rater of gun ownership is exceedingly higher--39,000 per 100,000--the murder rate was almost nill, at 1.98 per 100,000.
Looking at Western Europe, the study shows that Norway "has far and away Western Europe's highest household gun ownership rate (32%), but also its lowest murder rate."
And when the study focuses on intentional deaths by looking at the U.S. vs Continental Europe, the findings are no less revealing. The U.S., which is so often labeled as the most violent nation in the world by gun control proponents, comes in 7th--behind Russia, Estonia, Lativa, Lithuania, Belarus, and the Ukraine--in murders. America also only ranks 22nd in suicides.
The murder rate in Russia, where handguns are banned, is 30.6; the rate in the U.S. is 7.8.
The authors of the study conclude that the burden of proof rests on those who claim more guns equal more death and violent crime; such proponents should "at the very least [be able] to show a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that impose stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide)." But after intense study the authors conclude "those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared around the world."
In fact, the numbers presented in the Harvard study support the contention that among the nations studied, those with more gun control tend toward higher death rates. "the study shows that Norway "has far and away Western Europe's highest household gun ownership rate (32%)" This surprising, I would have thought Switzerland had the highest household gun ownership.
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This has been shown many times comparing rates for countries as well as states within the US but don't try to confuse a liberal dumbocrat with the facts!
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pretty amazing study, seeing that it comes out of ultra left wing Harvard. Still, the information will zero cred with the liberals. You don't get anywhere when you start confusing those idiots with facts and logic.
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and take chicago, detroit and new orleans off those figures and the gun violence in the USA is way, way lower per capita.
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It does not matter what the facts are, its all about people control. Control the guns control the sheeple!!!!!
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Interesting study. Hopefully someone will pay attention to it.
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and take chicago, detroit and new orleans off those figures and the gun violence in the USA is way, way lower per capita. Do it based on race and I bet it drops even more....
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Apparently they did not give the 0bummer these facts as he signed the executive order to not import military arms for more gun control.
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Another hunert thouu grant... un-PC results to be ignored.
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That study was actually printed in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy in spring of 2007.
Libs have been ignoring it for 6 years, that's not going to change.
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No correlation? I'd expect an inverse correlation.
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Sure seems to be the case around here. Inverse you bet. We're all so NICE to each other, ya never know.
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Apparently they did not give the 0bummer these facts as he signed the executive order to not import military arms for more gun control. Do you honestly believe he cares about facts?
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This regime never let's those annoying facts get in the way of the dictator's agenda.
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and take chicago, detroit and new orleans off those figures and the gun violence in the USA is way, way lower per capita. BINGO! Black on black crime and black gangs are far and away responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes and murder in the USA. But, since it's not PC to "profile" the real players in this game, the honest, law-abiding citizen is penalized every time any kind of gun violence not involving blacks takes place.
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When a parent can throw a baby against the wall, break its bones, or bash it's skull, with their bare hands, I'd say guns are the least of our problems.
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In their minds, the fact that we have the right to own guns is "barbaric," and that the idea of people other than police and military owning guns is just nonsense. You can not change their minds...that bullshit insanity is just instilled in them.
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