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So how did Canada become pistol phobic? Just asking...

Liberal Politicians lied to us for too many years.

idahoguy101;
If I were to give you an educated guess as a student of Canadian history, I'd suggest the following.

Up until after WWII Canada considered herself very much a British country - there were debates on the national radio where then Prime Minister John Diefenbaker defended our present and future "Britishness" for lack of a better term.

So it was a natural step that as Britain disarmed her citizens and went away from the carrying of handguns by almost everyone that we'd follow suit.

I'd suggest further that we likely thought it was a sign of our maturity as a country that, like Britain we were "civilized" enough to not need nasty handguns anymore.

Now no doubt as Brother Keith suggests there was an active push from the Liberal and liberal left to have our population as a whole swallow this bit of faulty logic.

We didn't bring the British North America Act home to Canada and write our own constitution until 1982 - when the ultra Liberal/liberal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau was in power and there was no way that under his evil power that commoners would be granted such a luxury as defending our own lives - much less do so with the ultimate symbol of uncivilized nations - a handgun.

Anyway sir, as you can tell this is a short version of events and as you can also tell it's a bit of a sticking point with me personally - growing up in the west where we had no political representation west of Winnipeg for decades we rightfully felt left out of the process most of the time.

Hopefully that was some use to you or someone else out there in cyber history class tonight.

I'd welcome correction or debate on my admittedly right wing memory of events too if any are so inclined.

Regards,
Dwayne

wabigoon;


Yep!

Dwayne

Trudeau is the worst four lettered word in the English language!

I had mentioned on here that he wasn't to popular on this side of the border also, at least with the crowd I hang with. The reason right, or wrong was that he had a rep. as being to close to the Jane Fonda, Hollywood types. That didn't sit to well with the redneck crowd.

I WAS going to keep out of this discussion,however, some of what our good friend, Dwayne, has posted are NOT the facts concerning handguns here in Canada. Further comments concerning Pierre Trudeau and his supposed activities/influence posted by some others are also simply wrong and perhaps some REAL history is in order here.

I will preface my points by stating, my actual direct family ancestors fought the French here in Canada, from the coming of Sir William Alexander in 162ish to the final, magnificent and righteous BRITISH, NOT "multicultural" victory on "The Plains of Abraham", Sept. 1759.

I do NOT "hate" Quebec francophones as so many western Canadians do, but, I hated Trudeau's draftdodging, cowardly, effete and effeminate guts and still do. He was a simply vile little man and a disgusting travesty of a PM as have been most of his successors, including his admirer and current holder of that office, Harper.

John Diefenbaker, WAS "pro" British, BUT, he was also the guy who sold us out with the changes to immigration policy in 1962, that started the flood of these bloody "skins" who have polluted Canada since then. He also was NOT "pro" gun and Trudeau, who admired "Dief", simply extended the foul lie of "multiculti" and extended the foolish immigration laws that "The Chief" had started.

The harsh and totally needless restrictions on handguns, were NOT enacted by a Liberal, they WERE put in place by a CONSERVATIVE, another of the worst PMs in Canada's history. This, was in response to an AMERICAN social issue, involving the American Nazi-lover, Henry Ford, whose manufacturing plant at Dearborne, MI., was closed by a very ugly strike.There, was a horror of supposed "Bolsheviks" among the essentially fascist "captains of industry" from "The Great War" to "WWII" and MOST of them WERE quite pro-Nazi.

So, the Conservative government of a former C.P.R. lawyer, Richard Bedford Bennett, aka "Iron Heel", for his brutal use of R.C.M.P. thugs and other police goons to "strike break" and suppress peaceful demonstrations of decent, unemployed Canadians, many of them wounded and decorated veterans of "WWI", used this opportunity to restrict the use and ownership of handguns by average Canadians.

Much later, AFTER Trudeau, the single most foul PM in all of our history, Martin, "Lyin' Brian" Mulroney, who sold us out in NAFTA, used the social unrest of recent times to enact MUCH tougher laws on ALL guns and, again, HE was a CONSERVATIVE.

His female successor, Kim Campbell, "Kimbo the Bimbo" gladly took this, which, she as scum-Mulphoney's "Justice Minister" ( BOY, THERE is irony) much further and was about to probably ban handguns until her electoral defeat by the extremely "anti" Jean Chretien, and we know, sadly, what THAT little "peasoup" was all about.

So, all the fulminations about Trudeau, aside, gentlemen, he was NOT the real instigator of the most repressive gun laws here in Canada; that, has always been CONSERVATIVES, "big business" azzkissers and vermin who clutched their Bibles while pigs in uniforms clubbed, among other fine Canadians, winners of the "Victoria Cross".

Anyone, who deludes themselves into thinking that the current Bible-thumping, two-faced little fascist who now is PM will be a supporter in a REAL sense of Canadian "gun freedom" should really stop smokin' that sch!t and LOOK at his actual record on gun issues.

This creep, wants us to be totally at the mercy of a government of "big business" azzwipes and he has,is and will sell out this country to even the phuqing Chinamen, so, that his kind can become obscenely wealthy and to hell with most Canadians.

The Liberals, NDP and Greens are NO better and we NEED to become MUCH more active and aggressive in a non-violent way, as "Gays" have done in the past 30ish years to protect and restore our rights....but, I doubt that this will happen.

Anyway, no offence, Dwayne, we all hated Trudeau,but, the slimy "Tories" have been our enemies since that strike, etc, in 1932, when "registration" was enacted here in response to the above. Funny, ain't it, how hunting and private gun ownership were/are vilified by so many Canadian politicians since WWI and also by this guy in Europe at the time, some character, a vegetarian, "AH"................

Is that kinda like a "Mall Cop?"

Nope, because a mall cop has the powers of arrest as an owner of property "or his designee" and civilians whether working for a police force or not have only a citizens powers of arrest -- the same as any other person.

The janitor at our detachment is called a "civilian member."

One thing worth note for American posters. The Conservative party in Canada is like liberal democrats here, the liberal party is similar to the most left wing Democrats in the states and the NDP is sort of to the left of the latter.

BTW Henry Ford was a vocal anti Semite, but I dont think he had any affiliation with the Nazi Party.

BWalker,

Henry Ford was a lot of things. Antisemite being one. He was not a Nazi sympathizer. As a very elderly man, his friends reported that after viewing footage of the German death camps, Ford had a series of Strokes. Ford despised Jews, but had enough morality to never associate himself with anything Nazi.

In 1920 Henry Ford distributed a series of 81 articles in his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, which focused on the "corruption" of Jews in American life. When "fighting filth," one of the articles professed, the "fight carries you straight to the Jewish camp." The filth referred to was the American cinema. The articles were reprinted in Germany and became widely read. In the same year Ford began financing the little known Adolf Hitler's anti-Jew, nationalist movement in Munich. It was Ford's funds (reported to be as high as $70,000) that helped finance Hitler's failed Bavarian rebellion in Munich. During Hitler's trial it was discovered that Ford's associates came in contact with Hitler's mentor Dietrich Eckart while trying to sell Germany tractors. Eckart asked for financial aid and got it almost immediately from Ford. Four days following Hitler's release from Landsberg prison, he stayed at the home of a wealthy friend where he received a new copy of Mein Leben und Werk (My Life and Work) by Henry Ford, a book he would revere and read carefully.

Exactly, ANY of the various individuals, who do the administrative and support work that the actual "LEO" members of the R.C.M.P. require to function are known as "civilian members" and this may include as the above poster indicates a janitor, or, it may be a pilot or perhaps a specialist in a number of areas, telecom/radio, whatever.

In many of the small settlements where both my wife and I worked, the RNs, which is how she started her career and the "forest service" personnel, are often recruited for various "part time" or "on call" positions and both she and I, separately, worked for the "Mounties" in this capacity. Decent pay, but, THE MOST boring job I have EVER done!

How the hell did we move from handguns in Canada to Henry Ford and Nazis?

I have two HG. They are tons of fun. And I've helped turn at least three people into handgun owners as well. The more the merrier.

I stand corrected. It appears as Kutenay was correct. Both Ford and GM were in bed with the Nazi's.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

kutenay;
I trust that this finds you and yours well and you're staying at least moderately dry and out of the wind. We're experiencing the wettest and perhaps windiest summer/fall that I can recall.

There is of course sir absolutely no offense taken by me with your post.

My response was admittedly a too brief overview and only my take on the matter.

I can't find fault with most of what you've posted kutenay - certainly not with your historical sequences of events in particular.

My distrust with both/all political parties here in Canada runs as deep as yours does and in my view as well they've both sold gun owners and hunters down the proverbial river time and again.

Anyway kutenay do try to stay dry, all the best to you folks and good luck on your hunts this fall.

Dwayne

RCMP have been the most powerful influence of gun control-doesn't matter which government was in power. Usually the weakest political party would fold under that pressure.

i'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is. but canadians, with the proper permit(wilderness ATC's) can and do carry handguns. the permitting process is not that difficult. FYI

Welcome to the fracas called, "The 24hourcampfire". wearing your flack jacket?