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I'm confused by all of the 10/22 jam-o-matics. I've had nothing but reliable service out of my three. Any mis feeds were remedied a mag swap. I also have 5 BX-25 magazines that work well.
Never owned a M-60. I've never owned or ran across a 10/22 that wasn't reliable. Like you, any problems were solved with attention to the mag. Accuracy? Average about 1/2" @ 50 yards larger groups than the 60. Handling? Completely shooter dependent but I can't stand the way a 60 feels. Parts replacement if wanted of needed (never have needed in my case) is a snap with a 10/22. The 60 is a whole nother ball game. As for the reliability of the 60. I've been intimate with 3 of em. One owned by me, 2 owned by hunting buddies. All were older Glenfield models. All impeccably cleaned. None could get a full tube outta it's crappy mag without choking. Any ammo. I'd say "God bless those with reliable 60's" but it appears someone already has.
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Agree. The 10-22 is easy to tinker with, add parts. I never shoot them stock, always fix them up. I have an old Marlin 60, so old it has a real Walnut stock. It's a nice rife, you just can't do as much "fixing" as with the Ruger. DF
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I have been extremely disappointed in the accuracy of the 10/22s I have seen and sold the ones I have owned. Still have my old Marlin 60 and don't recall it ever jamming and the accuracy is very good. I don't understand why Ruger can't build an accurate 10/22.
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I'd pick the marlin. I've had both and the marlin shot way better. I also liked the 60's trigger better.
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I have been extremely disappointed in the accuracy of the 10/22s I have seen and sold the ones I have owned. Still have my old Marlin 60 and don't recall it ever jamming and the accuracy is very good. I don't understand why Ruger can't build an accurate 10/22. Same here...
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I own both. I've had a 10-22 since 1980 and a Marlin 60 since probably 1970.
Like them both, but the Model 60 Marlin is my favorite .22 auto.
Out of the box, my Marlin is more accurate & feeds everything. I had to spent a lot of money to make my 10-22 accurate. And the 10-22 has jammed a lot more than my Marlin 60 ever has.
The thing I dislike the most about my Ruger are the magazines. I hate to load them & I have NEVER found a factory or aftermarket Mag for my Ruger 10-22 that is 100% reliable.
I love the tube feed on my Marlin. Just drop them in and your good to go. No magazine to fumble around with. I rarely ever clean the Marlin & it's still accurate & reliable. For a cheap plain old Factory .22 autoloader, the Marlin is hard to beat. THIS+1
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I saw a Model 60 recently that had what appeared to be a laminated stock, dark and nice grain that looked so much better than the standard cheesy stock. Just a few dollars less (169.00) than the ss/synthetic 10-22 I found at a pawn shop a month ago and put on layaway.
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Well boys, I picked up the gun from my gunsmith buddy. He installed the fiber optic front and peep rear sight. He also put the sling studs on the rifle. The trigger pull checked out at 5 1/2 lbs. I asked him to stone it, but called and said the new ruger trigger couldn't be stoned. I came home, and took a few pics of the gun, then loaded up and took it out to a farm I can sight guns in at. I was totally shocked!! I checked the rifle at 10 yds, and it was dead on. I moved back and checked it at 25 yds. It shot great. I put the squirrel target up, and fired 10 shots. Two were a little low and to the let. I settled in with a very solid check rest, and well, look at the pic! Others might do better, but at 62 1/2 yrs. old, and wearing bifocals, I was shocked! Needless to say, I'm taking it squirrel hunting, this weekend. I might not get any, but I don't think it will be the rifle's fault. maddog
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Sorry about your 10/22. I guess it didn't hear that it doesn't shoot as well as the Model 60!
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10/22's can shoot, but it is the rare one that will do that without work. They do have about anything and everything available as aftermarket parts. The Model 60 does not.
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I might add, that I was shooting CCI SV LR. Haven't tried anything else in the rifle, and may not, considering the accuracy.
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I've never had problems with 60's or 10/22's jamming if they weren't filthy. Never noticed a big accuracy difference either, but I do prefer the 10/22 for my own use.
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10/22's can shoot, but it is the rare one that will do that without work. They do have about anything and everything available as aftermarket parts. The Model 60 does not. You know, I find that statement to be true of most Ruger rotary mag 77 bolt actions but not the 10/22. Marlins are more than plenty accurate, they just tend to work great until they don't.
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I bought a model 60 a couple of years ago after doing some research. Didn't want to buy a 10/22 and have to spend money on mods to make it accurate. The only thing I did with it was send the trigger assembly to a guy on at RimFire Central who put a new trigger in that he designed. Cost me $25.00 with shipping. It now has a 2 lb trigger pull. My Marlin is more accurate than my BIL's two 10/22s but they are 100% stock.
Don't roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
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I like the model 60 better. I like tube-fed. I like the looks and the way they balance for me. I like having 17 shots at one go, and live in california, so this is my only legal option. I am happy with the accuracy.
The 10/22 has a lot more options. I don't need them for myself.
I just had a KAT trigger installed, with a LSHO added, to my 75 Model 60. This should drop the trigger pull to a long, smooth, safe 1-2 lbs, or less.
I also have a 39A and like working a lever more than a semiauto. Bolt-wise, I am set there in .22.
My choice isn't for everyone, but I'd go for a 17-round Marlin Model 60 [made before 1985 and New Jersey laws messed with it], but preferably one made in 82 or 83 to get the LSHO feature.
Older Model 60s had the ejection device as part of the feed throat and it wore down over time. The new ones use a spring for ejection, which can be replaced or re-aligned for proper ejection.
My 2 cents.
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Yes tube fed. After several hundred shots fired at whistle pigs, can make a tube fed 22 sure look better.
Not much to do with 10/22 vs marlin 60, and I do really like my LH CZ 452. That said I am about halfazzed on the lookout for a marlin 39 to scope mount for whistle pigs.
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