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I have friends that go organic crops. I schit you not. They will tell you that they will not eat the organic crops they grow, because they are bug infested, schit filled garbage. Yet, they know that people like TRH will fight over and pay double to greedily buy their schit crop and they can turn a very tidy profit. Non-GMO and/or Organic.....It's like porn, you may not watch it yourself or agree with it, but if you can make a boatload.......... Organic is a joke on the buyers that buy into that crap. Right, 36-38 berries to the POUND on Goat and Alpaca manure is a figment of my imagination 14 (FOURTEEN) feet of cane growth in 2 months illustrates the sickly, "Bug Infested" methodology June: August: Ya' know, I'd just as soon NOT have this strain corrupted by little pollen "Death Stars" and see it's legacy , non-hybrid vigor diminished. Feed your Orchards and Gardens whatever you want, it WAS a free Country, last I checked. I'd not be attacking other folk's approach as vehemently, it's not my style. tell me what methods I'll be REQUIRED to use, and we'll have us a little rodeo, pal. GTC
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I love heirlooms. no problem there, but the big picture calls for feeding of a global population of humans. if GMO technology assists in meeting that goal, then so be it.
Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue. Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem?
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ol Thomas Malthus has been wrong so far. but then the Messiah hasn't returned yet either. But you admit to being a Malthusian, right? uh, no. but ... the big picture calls for feeding of a global population of humans. So, you're not a Malthusian, but you regularly imply the Malthusian error??
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It's a fact that Round-Up ready corn(alfalfa) reduce herbicide use bigtime.
Round-up isn't nearly as 'bad' for the environment compared to certain chemicals.
That said I am a little nervous about the possible GMO half breed weeds(resistance) and things like that.
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I love heirlooms. no problem there, but the big picture calls for feeding of a global population of humans. if GMO technology assists in meeting that goal, then so be it.
Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue. Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem? I did not mean it the way you understood it. my intention was to convey the thought that a global GMO strategy would help feed the masses. the Chinese are buying land in Africa for food production for export back to China. they might be interested in a GMO seed source to maximize production on their land in Africa, etc. etc. sorry for my poor communication skills.
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Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue.
Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem?
Gus is a globalist.
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ol Thomas Malthus has been wrong so far. but then the Messiah hasn't returned yet either. But you admit to being a Malthusian, right? uh, no. but ... the big picture calls for feeding of a global population of humans. So, you're not a Malthusian, but you regularly imply the Malthusian error?? advancements in technology has kept alive so far. the GMO miracle is helping to contribute to the advancement of said technology. we're outrunning Mathusian's forecasts. let's pray we continue to do so. i'm sure he's glad he's been wrong for so long. let's keep him wrong.
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GMOs are evil frankenfood
Man will never make it to the moon
The human body cannot withstand riding in a train that goes over 45 mph
The earth is flat
Mike
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Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue.
Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem?
Gus is a globalist. got news for ya. we all are, whether we know it, or accept it, or not.
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I did not mean it the way you understood it. my intention was to convey the thought that a global GMO strategy would help feed the masses. the Chinese are buying land in Africa for food production for export back to China. they might be interested in a GMO seed source to maximize production on their land in Africa, etc. etc. sorry for my poor communication skills. Doubt it. We're about the only country that hasn't outlawed the stuff. That's because Monsatan could afford to purchase our regulatory agencies.
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I love heirlooms. no problem there, but the big picture calls for feeding of a global population of humans. if GMO technology assists in meeting that goal, then so be it.
Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue. Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem? I did not mean it the way you understood it. my intention was to convey the thought that a global GMO strategy would help feed the masses. the Chinese are buying land in Africa for food production for export back to China. they might be interested in a GMO seed source to maximize production on their land in Africa, etc. etc. sorry for my poor communication skills. No worries. It's not the first time I misunderstood you! And if the Chinese embrace GMOs, I really don't trust it now.
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advancements in technology has kept alive so far. the GMO miracle is helping to contribute to the advancement of said technology. we're outrunning Mathusian's forecasts. let's pray we continue to do so. i'm sure he's glad he's been wrong for so long. let's keep him wrong.
So why deny you're a Malthusian?
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Gus wants to be John Lennon.
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you realize that peeker has the 4 of us on ignore... I give a FRA what TRH is up to,...... making a joke out of sound, viable and profitable Ag. Ventures, based on PROVEN organic practice should be beneath you, Kieth. This [bleep]' GMO and Chemical "Agri-business" approach is doing our creeks, rivers, and soil bank little (if any) good, and there IS a middle road,....... I'll pop some pics ma�ana of the various bags and jugs that share my patch with the Goat and Alpaca (and Horse, Cow, and Chicken) chit. Yes, you'll even see some 16-16-16 . There's some glysophate in a sprayer, too,..... This "Bug Infested garbage" innuendo is STUPID, and childish in the bloody extreme. GTC
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Maybe that's our problem. Why is it our responsibility to feed the world? I bet if we stopped, the whole population growth thing wouldn't be such an issue.
Not very "global" of me, I know, but I'm curious when feeding millions in other countries became our problem?
Gus is a globalist. got news for ya. we all are, whether we know it, or accept it, or not. Exactly what a globalist would say.
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advancements in technology has kept alive so far. the GMO miracle is helping to contribute to the advancement of said technology. we're outrunning Mathusian's forecasts. let's pray we continue to do so. i'm sure he's glad he's been wrong for so long. let's keep him wrong.
So why deny you're a Malthusian? why would I be? he's always been wrong hasn't he? why would anyone support someone who's always wrong? with advancements in technology, he'll be wrong forever. once we get beyond peak human population, we can leave him buried, and not worry about digging him up over and over again.
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So why deny you're a Malthusian? why would I be? he's always been wrong hasn't he? why would anyone support someone who's always wrong? Exactly. That's why it's perfect for you.
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advancements in technology has kept alive so far. the GMO miracle is helping to contribute to the advancement of said technology. we're outrunning Mathusian's forecasts. let's pray we continue to do so. i'm sure he's glad he's been wrong for so long. let's keep him wrong.
Hey, stupid,....post some goddam pics of your patch, or STFU. .....the fact that third world folks living in a goddam GREENHOUSE can't feed themselves is not my problem, it's THEIRS. GTC
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GMOs are evil frankenfood
Man will never make it to the moon
The human body cannot withstand riding in a train that goes over 45 mph
The earth is flat
Mike And smoking isn't bad for you. Tape worms are a good way to lose weight. Sugar alternatives are not bad for you. Etc, etc... We could both go on I guess. I prefer erring on the side of caution and not trusting my health to big corporate and the Government. They very well could be safe viable means to increase quantity and quality. I'd like to see more evidence to support that before we no longer have an option. Probably too late for that.
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I'd like to see more evidence to support that before we no longer have an option.
Probably too late for that. Sadly, I agree.
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