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hey guys i have a model 700 remington , made in 2002 , it was a new gun i just bought a month ago that the guy bought new back in 2002 and has had it in his closet . the gun shoots fantastic but i cant get it to eject the shells . it pulls them out and just as they start to move to the left they fall right on the magazine follower . ive tried opening the bolt fast , slow and it always just drops them . i knocked the pin out of the bolt and cleaned the ejection plunger , spring , and port with zero results . so today i went and bought another spring for the plunger so i could cut it a coil at a time . i was told maybe the spring was too stiff and the plunger may kick the shell off early before the shell ejects , so i monkied around with that tonight and started cutting coils off . it fixed nothing , lol . so i put it all back together the way it came and put it in the safe . any ideas ?
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another question i forgot , should the extractor be sitting in the 9 o clock position if your looking at the front of the bolt face and the ejection plunger in the 5 o clock position ? it looks like the extractor on my bolt is in about the 7 or 8 oclock position , kind of in between the 7 or 8 o clock position , wouldnt that make the case want to shoot straight up?
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What cartridge, I believe the exact position is dependent on the case. Most of my standard calibers, the lip is ~5:30 almoost lined up with the bottom lug. I think, the .221 FB is at least different.
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If the gun has been modified from its original to a fire ball based cartridge (17FB, 20 Vartarg, or 221FB) you likely will need to have a Sako extractor installed. That was the case for me.
If its not a fireball issue, I am clueless.
Good luck.
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its a 7mm saum. sorry i should have stated that .
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just for giggles i took a plunger out of my buddies 300wsm model 700 bolt and the spring just to see if there was any difference , it did the exact same thing in my bolt assembly . it pulls the brass out to where its just about to flip out and it just drops it right at the last minute . so then i put my plunger and spring in his gun and it throws the cases 3 feet out of the gun , lol . frustrating . so i think my ejector plunger and spring are fine . its got to be something with the extractor being weak or bad and not holding it good enough i guess . i mean what else could it be ?
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Sounds to me like the extractor needs to be worked on. Take it to your local smith for repair..
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Extractor sits a little low, and doesn't grasp enough of the rim.
I've bent them out a hair to remedy that. They aren't spring steel, so they bend fairly easy.
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Sounds to me like the extractor needs to be worked on. Take it to your local smith for repair.. What Redneck said...
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I'd leave it alone, you won't have to chase your brass.....
Should be an easy cheap fix
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hey guys i have a model 700 remington , made in 2002 , it was a new gun i just bought a month ago that the guy bought new back in 2002 and has had it in his closet . the gun shoots fantastic but i cant get it to eject the shells . it pulls them out and just as they start to move to the left they fall right on the magazine follower . ive tried opening the bolt fast , slow and it always just drops them . i knocked the pin out of the bolt and cleaned the ejection plunger , spring , and port with zero results . so today i went and bought another spring for the plunger so i could cut it a coil at a time . i was told maybe the spring was too stiff and the plunger may kick the shell off early before the shell ejects , so i monkied around with that tonight and started cutting coils off . it fixed nothing , lol . so i put it all back together the way it came and put it in the safe . any ideas ? This should help. I think your problem is covered here. http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/learn/Inst-562%20Rem.pdf
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My 270WSM did the same thing. I kept playing with it and found the rim was catching on the extractor cut out. I rounded off the sharp edge with a dremel and polished. It works like a champ now.
I could make a case stick and stay with the bolt out of the rifle, which is how I caught the issue. With the bolt in the rifle, it would fall off on the follower as mentioned.
May be something to check.
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ok i figured i would update , this rifle has been to 3 different gunsmiths now . after 4 different extractors , 3 ejectors , and springs , this thing still isnt fixed . it wont even grab enough of the rim to pull it out of the chamber now and thats with an oversized, thicker extractor that remington send me this last time . so tonight i pulled my scope off , took my trigger out and put the factory back in and shes boxed up ready to go to new york . so they can deal with the headache . i think the bolt is out of spec where the extractor sits to be honest . oh well , maybe ill get it back right .
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If it comes back un-functional, we will fix it.....send it back, and if you are happy pay the enclosed invoice. The bolt nose is out of tolerance and to keep that bolt, a mini 16 extractor will fix it. Another option is a PT&G bolt. Has the 16 extractor and a well made piece. Only problem with a new bolt means headspace issues. Food for thought
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