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I have an AA 6.5 Grendel carbine. I LOVE this firearm! I would like to stretch the barrel out a bit though. I am a few hundred fps slower than the book loads, it's loud and I think that I can improve down-range accuracy. My inclining is to go with a 20".

What vendor would you recommend for quality and availability? I am dabbling with longer range shooting with this AR; i.e. 400 to 600. I am consistent with the gong at 400, however I haven't put it on paper at that range. Certainly sub-moa at 100 yards.

Shooting 123 gr A-Max 48.6gr H4895 and CCI450. Hitting aroung 2400 on the Chrono.

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Good luck getting a barrel anytime soon.


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Yup, I hear ya. However I was able to get my 6.5 from Alexander in about 4 months! I am still waiting for a backup bolt and another lower (working on about 4 months right now). I am patient. This will be a great winter project. I am going to upgrade the trigger as well.

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I'm sitting on a 24" complete upper and am not sure just yet what I want to do with it.

Loads suggestions? Factory ammo?


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Most of the load data publications list a 24" for the test loads, so I think you will be fairly consistent with the results listed.

That being said, one of the more recommended powders is the AA2520. I experienced some serious overpressure issues with this powder; i.e. failure to eject, brass flow, etc. As I listed above, my best load is with H4895 48.6gr., Hornady A-Max 123gr and actually a bit under book.

Other powders that I have seen recommended are CFE123, Benchmark, and Western Tac.

I compared small rifle primers and magnum small rifle primers (CCI 400 and 450) and did not realize much of a difference on the chrono or the paper. I suppose in colder temps the magnum primers may be better.

So, I am zero at 200 yards, 3 moa at 300; 7 moa at 400; and calculated 15 moa at 550 (haven't been successful on this one yet).

I am by no means an authority on this but that is what I know.

I say clip the upper on and give it a shot, even with factory ammo if you can find it. Enjoy

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Originally Posted by EFrench
As I listed above, my best load is with H4895 48.6gr., Hornady A-Max 123gr and actually a bit under book.



Must be a typo with 48.6grs of H4895? The Grendel is a 30gr cartridge.

I have good accuracy with Benchmark and H335...

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Originally Posted by jmsdad
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As I listed above, my best load is with H4895 48.6gr., Hornady A-Max 123gr and actually a bit under book.



Must be a typo with 48.6grs of H4895? The Grendel is a 30gr cartridge.

I have good accuracy with Benchmark and H335...


oops... 28.6... thanks for pointing that out. I must have been thinking about the '06!

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I noticed that MCGowen is making AR barrels now, not sure if this caliber is yet available from them though


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Originally Posted by iambrb
I noticed that MCGowen is making AR barrels now, not sure if this caliber is yet available from them though


Thank for the tip. I'll look them up.

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Probably the most recommended powder is the CFE223, it usually gives top velocity and shoots some almost unbelievable groups in a lot of rifles. My bolt 6.5 Grendel is super accurate. Check us out at:

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/forum.php


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Check out J&T Distributing. I know they have a 20" 6.5 Grendel Upper Receiver Assembly that I would dearly love to get if and when I can save up the $$$. I believe they also have kits and barrels on their site as well. I have heard / read good things about J&T Distributing and from what I understand they are a sister company to Double Star.

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Thank you. I have been to the J&T site a while back. A recommendation or post of experience with a vendor is a great thing.

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For longer work I would not go with anything less than 24. I did some of the early testing of that round at 600 for Arne, before it changed from 6.5 ppc to the Grendel name. I don't think that a 20 inch tube would do quite what it needs to IMHO. At least for what you are talking about.


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Originally Posted by rost495
For longer work I would not go with anything less than 24. I did some of the early testing of that round at 600 for Arne, before it changed from 6.5 ppc to the Grendel name. I don't think that a 20 inch tube would do quite what it needs to IMHO. At least for what you are talking about.


Thank you. That is great information. I am practically a clueless novice. What can you tell me about the barrel harmonics in a 24" vs. 20"? Can that be compensated? If so, how does one go about figuring that out?

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Over 20" you really need an extended length gas system.

I don't see any major advantage with going over 20" in the Grendel.

123gr A-max out of my 16" is 2450fps and list out of a 24" is 2580fps. You can get 2500fps with a 123gr and CFE223 out of a 18" barrel.

I went 16" and 20" but if I was going to do it from start again I would just go 18".


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I would get in touch with Satern Custom Machine and get one of their cut rifle barrels 20" in a SPR contour.



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I ordered from Satern in April and I am still waiting. They keep me informed and I knew it was going to take a while when I ordered, but don't expect to get one in a hurry.


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got this email from McGowen today, my question was "Will the 6.5 Grendel chambering soon be available?

It is available now.

Dan J Wynne
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McGowen Precision Barrels, LLC
American Gun Company, LLC
4051 Hwy 93 South
Kalispell, MT 59901

P) 406-755-4907 F) 406-755-2969


Bear in mind that the barrel that is 18" stock is just $225!!!! Here is a link to the site - you can get additional lengths - I think that they are about $10-20 per inch, and fluting too!

http://www.mcgowenbarrel.com/ar15.htm

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Thank you for the information.


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