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if you were able to read as well as you are able to run your keyboard, you'd understand that I was not offering advice. I was mocking you.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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In summary apparently John Burns wants me to do his wife, but I ain't into Korean dudes.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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With all due respect to John Burns and Rcamigula,if I were huntin' in an area with Grizzly bears,the rifle WILL be loaded with the heaviest Nosler Partitions in whatever caliber I'm carrying. Noslers are an excellent security blanket.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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There is "NO" rational reason for shooting a grizzly with a Berger!!  memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
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The OP's question was about would it work in the outside chance he got into a bad situation with a grizz whilst he was hunting deer. I think he'll be fine. It is funny. Seems like there is only one guy in the entire thread that has actually stuck a Berger in a Grizzly. laugh
I'd also like to see someone who's never shot a bear with a Berger take John up on his offer. Since he can shoot, I have no doubt he'll be fine too 
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I think most of us would say that is more of a stunt than a smart thing to do. Kind of like shooting Cape buffalo with a ballistic tip. There's the off chance it might work, but it's not wise given all the other options.
But hey, if Berger is your true love and you must in all hunts remain faithful to her, it's a free country.
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Insurance is something most would like to avoid, but when you need it.........
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Bowhunting, photography, hiking, and fishing in grizzly country would mean certain death, decapitation, and total dismemberment.
Unless you had a show stopper DG rifle stuffed full of titanium jacketed welded tungsten core triple walled bonded plutonium tipped solid fuel boattail CNS seeking proximity exploding bullets.
How did Lewis and Clark's party and the early trappers last more than a week?
C'mon, man..............(Chris Carter)
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jwall- *** 3100 guy***
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The mtns. and National Parks in griz country are loaded with college girls hiking all over.
For heaven sakes some of you, man up already.
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The mtns. and National Parks in griz country are loaded with college girls hiking all over.
That's just terrible...........got any pics ?
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The mtns. and National Parks in griz country are loaded with college girls hiking all over.
For heaven sakes some of you, man up already. like these girls. happened within minutes of my house. LINKY
Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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Yeah, but them folks ain't guttin dead animals...now are they?
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Bowhunting, photography, hiking, and fishing in grizzly country would mean certain death, decapitation, and total dismemberment.
Unless you had a show stopper DG rifle stuffed full of titanium jacketed welded tungsten core triple walled bonded plutonium tipped solid fuel boattail CNS seeking proximity exploding bullets.
How did Lewis and Clark's party and the early trappers last more than a week?
C'mon, man..............(Chris Carter) LOL..
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Thankfully, it's only the live ones who write diaries and journals. (BTW, I believe the folks of yore were a lot more inclined to pop a cap on the potential threat than people are today, for various reasons. That right there places them at some advantage, weapon types aside.)
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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yes, but a few years ago, grizzlys killed two hunters in Montana in two separate incidents because the bear was shot. in both cases, the bear was shot by hunters thinking it was a blackie and followed into the brush.
if you have to shoot one, you better kill it
Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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if you have to shoot one, you better kill it
Absolutely! Nothing "yes, but" about it.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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yes, but a few years ago, grizzlys killed two hunters in Montana in two separate incidents because the bear was shot. in both cases, the bear was shot by hunters thinking it was a blackie and followed into the brush.
if you have to shoot one, you better kill it Probably because they shot them with Barnes that penciled. LOL
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if I had to take a walrus carcass from a polar bear feeding frenzy, Barnes would be on the short list
Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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yes, but a few years ago, grizzlys killed two hunters in Montana in two separate incidents because the bear was shot. in both cases, the bear was shot by hunters thinking it was a blackie and followed into the brush.
if you have to shoot one, you better kill it Probably because they shot them with Barnes that penciled. LOL I am calling BS on the penciling
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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