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Buying the outfit as you describe I might allow $25 for the scope if I really like the guy. No matter how good it might be you won't be able to get $50 out of it max. Probably a lot less. It's still a Tasco. Having said all that I have what is probably a Chinese Tasco I bought in 2000 because I needed a usable scope and had no budget. It's been on both an Interarms Mark X 25-06 and a Ruger Ranch Rifle. The 25-06 would stay inside an inch at 100yds with the loads I used. From what I hear and see if a Tasco lasts for the first hundred rounds or so it'll probably last a lot longer. FWIW
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Not a wc as the post originally inquired about but my early production Tasco Titan has excellent glass and tracks as well or better than any scope I've used and I've had a fair # of brands to judge against: Burris, Bushnell, Docter, Leupold, Meopta, Minox, Nikon, Swarovski, Zeiss and likely some I've forgotten. Not all Tascos are created equal and they certainly aren't all junk.
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For what you pay for a Tasco, they certainly give you your money's worth.. sure there are plenty of 'better' scopes.. at the same time Tascos have worked for plenty of hunters over the last 40 plus years....
and their failure rate is no better or no worse than many other brands...even in the mega high buck range....
myself, I have been able to see just as well out of many Tascos as my Leupold, Weavers, etc...
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Wouldn't trust one to hunt with... OK paper puncher just don't be too disappointed when it gives up the ghost... It will
Before the World Class there was the World Class Plus. Lifetime warranty. Total bullshit.
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I have had a World Class Plus MIJ scope on my .30/06 for nearly 20 years and even after a couple of trips across the world has never required re-sighting. An ex Leupold Rep told me once, that that scope had the same lenses and turrets as the Leupold Vari-X3. It is a very clear and reliable scope in my experience. John
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I'd hunt with open sights before trusting a trasco.
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ya know, I bet you could take many of the Tascos that have been available over the years, especially the World Class and World Class Plus... put the lenses and mechanics from them in a different scope body... jack up the price 500 to a 1000% and then you'd have the same folks who piss on Tascos all the time, rant and rave of how good these new expensive scopes are...
its all in the mind.. and too many people think $$$$ is better than $....
I use to love to watch these rich kids in college talk about how great their Heineken beer was for instance, and who in their right mind would drink some Budweiser or Schlitz etc...
so after they had a few, when it was "time for another beer", I'd jump up and tell them I was going to the Fridge, let me get that for ya...
then I'd go and pour a beer that we picked up for a $1.00 a six pack in those days ( Bud was $1.80 a six pack) into his Heineken bottle and take it back to him.... and then bring up the question of what makes Heineken so much better.. as he would tell ya the taste etc... while drinking the $1 a 6 pack beer in his Heineken bottle... and never noticed the difference....
not all Tasco scopes are necessarily great, but not all are necessarily bad... certainly a hell of a lot better than a Barska or BSA or many Simmons, who also have some good scopes at times in their product lines...
I have several of each, but 4 power Tasco Pronghorns, and 4 power Simmons Whitetail Classics... both products have good optics and have held up on anything they have been mounted on...and the Simmons I have mounted on my 300 Win Mags and my 338 Win Mags... they are optically as clear as the 4 power Leupolds or Weavers I have also...
bottom line, being a scope snob.. doesn't mean you are right...
PS: Ghostman, this wasn't aimed at you.. it just happened to follow your post is all...I respect your opinions, as it is your hunting rifle and scope choice.. not mine..and I am not going to criticize whatever works for someone else...nor should they criticize what works for someone else either...
and for the guys that rag on Ringman, I've been at the range and ran into him when he is out playing with his optics and some of this rifles and wildcats... he gets a lot of criticism on the campfire here by some...
but actually being there, and seeing first hand some of the stuff he is talking about... even if it might conflict with someone else's opinion or experience... I haven't seen where Rich has been posting a lot of fluff/BS on here...
and Rich is also a guy who is a pretty darn good shot.. I've spotted for him on some small targets out at 500 and 600 meters, and he knows what he is talking about....
what he posts is from experience, not what he reads in some magazine article promoting some expensive product...
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Seafire it's not about $$ or being a scope snob, It's about QUALITY. When I was a lot younger and definately not as well off financially I bought Tasco and Bushnell scopes because they were the only brands I could afford at the time. I ended up wasting a lot of money on cheap optics that fogged up, didn't track worth a darn, lost zero, had reticles break, had lousy eye relief etc. etc.
As I got older and increased my financial status I promised myself that I'd buy the best quality scopes I could afford. I don't go overboard on spending but I don't skimp on scopes either. I evaluate optics 1st hand and choose them based on what suits ME not what others are using. At present most of my scopes are in the $3-800 range and consist of Zeiss Conquests, Trijicon Accupoints, Nikon Monarchs, Leupold VX3, Kahles CL and a Redfield.
If a person cant tell the difference between a Bud and a Heineken or a Tasco and a Zeiss they're either kidding themselves or have no taste for quality.
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If a person cant tell the difference between a Bud and a Heineken or a Tasco and a Zeiss they're either kidding themselves or have no taste for quality.
Absolute truth. While I crave a good deal as much as the next guy, I have come to realize that the only people worse than gear snobs are those who try to defend low quality gear by belittling those who disagree.
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The is a point being missed here. A Japanese Tasco World Class Plus is not the same scope you get in Walmart for $40. "Tasco" is a brand name not a scope model name.
I once received a, what was 25 years ago, very expensive German scope that had a scratched lens straight out of the box. Today's scopes are not generally the same as we had to select from 25 years ago.
Do any of your remember the very prestigious but extinct scope brand called Pecar?
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I do speak from experience and my experience greatly differs from anyone trying to tell me how a tasco compares to a swaro, elite, leupold ect. I've owned them all and can say from first hand experience that the difference is huge. I am in no way saying that a tasco wont work, they will. As I said before I have harvested deer with them. To try and show me how the optics are close is a freakin joke. I was able to tell a big difference between the swaro and the new zeiss hd5. The swaro bested it. I promise you the hd5 will hands down beat any of the lesser scopes I've owned. I'm not a gear snob, I'm just relaying my first hand experience. I will also add that if what some of you are saying is true, why would anyone buy a $1000 scope? I sure as heck wouldn't as I'm not rich by any means. I just believe in you get what you pay for in optics and so far its held true.
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If a person cant tell the difference between a Bud and a Heineken or a Tasco and a Zeiss they're either kidding themselves or have no taste for quality.
Absolute truth. While I crave a good deal as much as the next guy, I have come to realize that the only people worse than gear snobs are those who try to defend low quality gear by belittling those who disagree. if that was targeted at me, I wasn't trying to belittle anyone.. but if it came across that way to you, then accept my apology... it wasn't my personal intention...
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I'm still confused by the whole Bud vs Heinekin, Tasco vs Zeiss idea. Which scope is the Heinekin? I'm not a huge Tasco fan, although I do like my Tasco Titan, but I'd rather hunt with a Wal-Mart Tasco than try to choke down a Heinekin. That is one of the worst beers I have personally ever tasted!
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I have owned one Tasco World Class, MIJ. It was on a Ruger M77 I bought. Not a bad scope at all. While I have Zeiss, Leupold, Sightron, Minox, Burris, Weaver, and Swarovski on current rifles that old Tasco is still doing fine about thirty years after I got it. Its been on two rifles.
The only scopes I have ever had trouble with were Denver made Redfields late in their tenure as an independent company, one Burris scope made in Greely Colorado, and a Weaver made in Asia. I always understood that Tasco was just a marketing company down in Florida. Their scopes were made by numerous contractors all over the world, probably mostly in Japan or Asia in the early days. Some were good, some were not.
Like my hunting partner's K-Mart binoculars made by Steiner, things are sometimes better than you think.
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