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#8245066 - 11/11/13 Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ?  
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No dog in this fight,......just passing on one of the more interesting tidbits that turn up in one's mail.

Apologies if it's already been posted, too wink.

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I have no doubt that this is a legitimate complaint. One gets the feeling that if this doesn’t adversely impact you or someone you know now, it will eventually.

I appreciate your sending this to me. It is a scary situation indeed.





Read this about a guy who signed up for Obamacare and then found he couldn't afford it so he dropped it. Very interesting.



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RE: OBAMACARE A comment posted on the Affordable Care Act/Obamacare FB page:



"I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 AM. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually. I chose tier 2 "Silver Plan" and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I "opt-out" and chose to continue along with no insurance. I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. Informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the "REPERCUSSIONS PORTION" for "non-payment" of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with "Non-Payment" and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy "Automatically withdraw" your "penalties" weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is "Free" or even "Affordable." Kinda sheds a lot of light on all of the arming and beefing up of arms for all of the domestic departments INCLUDING the IRS now doesn't it?

There's a war coming folks....





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#8245134 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: crossfireoops]  
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As a diabetic, I logged onto the ACA web site. With similar income, my monthly payment would be $979 a month with a $12,000 annual deductible.

The $9,000 fine looks like the best alternative.

#8245183 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: Plinker]  
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I saw this earlier and the first thing that popped out to me was that drivers licenses are issued by states, not the Feds. I hope this is just bull, but nothing this administration does would surprise me.



#8245198 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: Mathsr]  
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The feds will likely pull their old trick with the drivers licenses - the states will play the game or lose their highway funds.


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#8245469 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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and all of this is not reason to impeach that oreo SOB in the White House?

that SOB is a traitor to this nation, if he is even really a citizen.... myself, I still support the concept he was born in Kenya...

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#8245509 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: Seafire]  
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The drivers license and lien parts are all false.
The only thing the law allows (currently) is for the penalty to reduce any future tax refunds. Several prominent conservative talk show hosts have recommended adjusting your W-2 to insure you are due no refund, and then refuse to pay the penalty, since the law currently allows for no additional collection action.


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#8245535 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: antelope_sniper]  
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The penalty for an individual who does not have insurance is something like $95 for an individual, with a lesser amount for each dependent, for a maximum of $285 , or 1% of your adjusted yearly income minus $20,000 for a family and $10,000 for an individual, Which ever is greater. I think the penalty goes up each year.

The guy would have to make over $400,000 per year for his penalty to be that high, since he gives his income at 45-55k I would say that the above is BS.

Also there is no way to collect the penalty except withhold money from your tax return. There is no provision for liening a home/property or withholding DL's.

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#8245540 - 11/11/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: heavywalker]  
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Although the premium and deductible look to be in line with what people have been reporting.


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#8245792 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: heavywalker]  
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can anyone else find some other unsubstantiated internet BS to post to get me mad? this one didn't get me mad enough. i need more mad.


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#8245806 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: antelope_sniper]  
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
The drivers license and lien parts are all false.
The only thing the law allows (currently) is for the penalty to reduce any future tax refunds. Several prominent conservative talk show hosts have recommended adjusting your W-2 to insure you are due no refund, and then refuse to pay the penalty, since the law currently allows for no additional collection action.


Yes, this is correct. The ACA cannot levy a tax/fine at this point. Only if you are due a tax refund can they collect. So the point is to adjust your with holdings so as NOT to have a refund coming.

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#8245810 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: rem141r]  
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Originally Posted by rem141r
can anyone else find some other unsubstantiated internet BS to post to get me mad? this one didn't get me mad enough. i need more mad.


Hillary is running for president in 2016.

#8245811 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: bigwhoop]  
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Remember people, all this is designed to FAIL. The purpose is to create so much financial distress, psychological duress that YOU will be begging for universal, single payer coverage.

This is the greatest scam perpetrated on the American people by their own president. This makes global warming look believable!


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#8245812 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: Plinker]  
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Originally Posted by Plinker
Originally Posted by rem141r
can anyone else find some other unsubstantiated internet BS to post to get me mad? this one didn't get me mad enough. i need more mad.


Hillary is running for president in 2016.


Yes and John McCain is thinking about it!


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#8245824 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: bigwhoop]  
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Rumor has the McCain will be her running mate.


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#8245825 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: derby_dude]  
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ok thanks. i'm mad enough. you can stop now.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Rumor has the McCain will be her running mate.


Why not, what difference does it make at this time. whistle


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#8247784 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: bigwhoop]  
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The next thing that will come up is You have to vote dem. or repub and the side that wins can put who they want in after the vote.

You have to vote to see who it is.

#8247835 - 11/12/13 Re: Holy Smokes ! .....is this on the level ? [Re: funshooter]  
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There is no provision in the law for the government to enforce any penalty if you don't buy insurance. If you have a tax return owed you, the IRS can withhold it. That is all.


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