Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Give me one good reason why I need a 458 Win Mag.

EVERY serious rifle looney needs a 458 win or 458 LOTT! mostly because your collections not complete without a dangerous game rifle and once reality sets in, because a 45 caliber bolt action rifle can use , home made cast bullets and still be very effective, on deer and elk.
yes you can use cast bullets in smaller calibers but a properly loaded 45 caliber has a good deal more range and stopping power than something like a 30/30 loaded with those comparable cartridges.
besides youll have a good rifle that with proper handloads , obviously these are far reduced from the cartridges full potential, but they make much less recoil and the light loads actually fun to shoot and can be used for any game

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html


25 grains of TRAIL BOSS makes a good small game load


55 grains of IMR 3031 and this bullet makes a good effective deer and elk load

http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_detail.cfm?MetallicID=5866

Because it will be so easy to drill holes for ice fishing with it. Just remember to open the windows and doors to your ice shanty before touching that bastid off.

That makes waaayyy too much sense!

Because your yard squirrels are showing too much attitude when they raid the bird feeder.

To shoot stuff

But

You most likely need a 458 Lott

Snake

greenbrier, then we know it won't work here!

If you scratch that itch I will join you at the range cause I never shot one.

I've killed lots deer with a 45-70 loaded with a 405 gr bullet to 1800 FPS.........nothing, I mean, absolutely nothing puts a deer down as instantly as that round & it's easy to dupe that in the 4-5-8.

Knocks hell outta elk in the timber at shorter ranges as well.

Little to no meat damage.

Go for it & enjoy I'd say.

MM

Sage wisdom right here.

Because it's there.

You're on. It'll be spring or more likely summer before I can do it but...Dang it I just like rifles with a nice "boom" factor so much cooler than the "bang"s and "crack"s.

Size is everything.

If you want to be pedestrian then you need the .458 WinMag. If you are in to keeping up with the Jones then get a .458 Lott. If you want to be known for your classic good taste and refinement, you need a .404 Jeffery.

Just because you want one.

I don't know how close you live to your local zoo, but I live less than 4 miles from our Riverbanks Zoo. I thoroughly expect to wake up one morning to find an escaped rhino grazing in the back yard, or more likely having a bull hippo cooling himself off in the mud hole in the front yard that I've put off filling in. When it happens, and it will, I'll be the neighborhood hero when I take care of the problem with either my trusty .404 Jeffery or my .411 KDF Magnum. Do I need either of these for the deer I typically hunt? Nah (although I have used them for such). But when the inevitable happens, I'll be prepared! I suggest you do the same!

Reasons:

1. To help practice flinching.
2. To annoy those people that moved into the new housing estate near the rifle range and then complained about the noise.
3. To make sure the varmints stay dead:

Because Dirty Harry had one. Model 70

Don't confuse needs with wants. I bought a used M77 in 458 about 30 years ago and have shot the fool out of it with everything from full loads to pipsqueek loads. It is an easy shooter and quite accurate with 300 grain Barnes.

I donated it to a Friends of the NRA banquet several years ago because my old neck is getting tired of heavy recoil and because I wanted someone else to share in the fun of having one.

I suppose I can take care of most elephants or rhinos that come by my place with carefully placed shots from a 375 H&H and am not worried about my reduction in firepower.

If you really want impressive performance, try a 50 BMG. I borrowed a friend's AR50 earlier this fall and had a blast. It was loud but recoiled very little with the muzzle brake. It kicked about like a 243. At 40 pounds, however, it was not a rifle I would want to drag through the woods.

What if the animals in the zoo get out? Duh

You need a .458 because I have a nice one I would like to sell.