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You want an affordable .375 , maybe try to find a used M-70 push feed . It's sort of the Rodney Dangerfield of rifle actions......they feed and function good , shoot good , and yet get no respect...........so you can sometimes pick them up pretty cheap..........

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There is a whole world of difference between carrying a 10# rifle on your shoulder, than in your hands for a week and traveling in muskeg. I did just that chasing blacktails last fall, and my rifles are going on a diet.

Just take your 325 wizzum and shoot straight. If you don't care for recoil, don't get a big gun! I've dabbled with big and bigger guns, and have seen the light that while they are good for grins at the range, I don't care for them in the field, and it's not that I don't shoot them just as well as more reasonable rounds.

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I have lived my entire life in Grizzly country and used six different .375 H&H CRF rifles throughout B.C./AB. and so forth; it is a fabulous round and gave me great confidence when living/working alone in remote wilderness. I have a superb P-64 Mod. 70 re-stocked with a Borden synthetic and a few other mods, yet, I never use it.

This is because I completely agree with Allen, a good .338 with 250 premium bullets is close to the .375 in function against Grizzlies, is lighter to pack in mountains all day and is easier to shoot accurately from field positions. It was, as he states, developed for the Alaskan-B.C.-Yukon type of hunting and there is nothing better.

For a simon-pure working rifle, I have obtained two minty Oberndorf Mauser sporters in 9.3x62, after years of pestering the owners and this old round, with 286 NPs and five shots in a rifle of just over 8 lbs. is my idea of perfection for packing among big, truculent bears. I am not especially recoil-sensitive and can and have shot many larger rounds, BUT, you have to carry your gun, all day and .375s tend to be a tad heavy for this.

I admit, I am a .338 nut, but, I have yet to have or see a failure with one and the 250 NP is real comforting when in the loonschitt by yourself with steaming bear doo-doo beside you on the trail. Right now, for a top-end .338, I would try to finance either an Echol's "Legend" or a Waffen-Hein; another option is to buy a used, NOT new, Dakota and have it tweaked by a top 'smith.

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What about a .350 Rem Mag with 250gr. NP around 2400 - 2500 fps.? Light weight rifle with less recoil than the .338 and .375, and should work quite well on BB.

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a .375 h&h can be built as light as a .338 win mag, and i prefer the recoil of the .375, like a heavy push, compared to the sharp jab of the .338. another thing i like about the .375 is the long tapered case tends to feed slicker than cat s**t, something that has been lost with the new sharp shouldered wonders.

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I am having a 375 H&H rifle built on a Ruger aciton for the reasons of portability.

It shoudl weigh in abouthte same as a comparable 338 WM.

I am getting rid of my 375 H&H Brno 602, simply becuase it is too heavy to pack all day, especialy since it has a heavy, fully bedded fiberglass stock.

I lugged it around on several bear hunts, and while it is a good rifle, it's just too heavy.

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I've been looking for a .375 H&H for some time as well. My wife and I stopped by a small shop today and what do I find but a virtually mint, and I mean mint other than there was no OEM box, Winchester Model 70 Super Express .375 H&H. This is the push-feed model and was in as new a condition as any rifle I ever removed from a factory box. It was there on consignment and the shop keep was prety certain the fellow who placed it with him had never even chambered a round in it.

We made a deal, along with a box of Federal Classic 270 grain soft points, and it came home with me this afternoon. I'm happy. You never know what you're going to find on the wall or in a rack in an out of the way gun shop.

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a .375 h&h can be built as light as a .338 win mag, and i prefer the recoil of the .375, like a heavy push, compared to the sharp jab of the .338. another thing i like about the .375 is the long tapered case tends to feed slicker than cat s**t, something that has been lost with the new sharp shouldered wonders.

Good logic there.
I believe the tapering was designed into the cartridge more for fighting the heat expansion of African hunting, but there's no reason it shouldn't work as well in the cooler temperatures of Alaska.

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Go to your range with 25 rounds of .338 Win.-250 NPs and an 8.5 lb. .338 AND 25 rounds of .375 H&H-300 NPs and an 8.5 lb .375 H&H and shoot BOTH of these rifles, side by side. I have done exactly this many times and find that the .375 kicks much harder than the .338.

You can certainly build a light .375, but, you can build a slightly lighter .338, given the barrel diameters and the recoil from a light .375 will ALWAYS exceed that of a .338 of equal weight. If, you are in bear country, you want your rifle in your hands and packing a heavier rifle that way, all day gets really tiring.

I know a number of guys who had very light .375s and even .338s built for packing in the mountains of B.C. AND every one of them has gone to heavier rifles, usually .338s. But, for those that can handle it, a light .375 is a fine choice, but, for most purposes, it's not my choice after years of packing one.

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Most of the time, your .375 is going to be slung on your shoulder.

When you do have it in your hands tracking Mr. Big, you aren't going to notice an extra pound. What really counts is the balance, how it points for you, and how well the sights line up to your eyes when you have to put it there without taking your eyes off your quarry, and maybe in a big hurry.

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I have a 350 Rem mag in a Rem 660. Great rifle. Light weight hard hitting, relatively light recoil. The first "short magnum".
I just mounted a Leupold 2 1/2 power scope on it. I intend to use it as my primary rifle this fall. Last year, it was a 45/70, the previous year it was a .458 Win mag. Next year, who knows?

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Local dealer here in Alaska was selling a special run of Savage stainless 375 H&H's for about $600 I think. Contact Boondocks in Eagle River Alaska to see if they have any remaining.


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With all the super premium bullets available today , my feeling would be there is no real need need for 300 gr slugs in the .375 ; 270 grainers should be plenty for N American use .

So loaded , I doubt you could feel much difference in recoil , or weight of the ammo for that matter............

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I do like my Sako 375 but if I didn't have it I would be just fine with a Ruger 338 all weather. The weight does add up. The Sako I have is the old Hunter and it's in a McMillan stock and isn't that bad but some are Heavy. Either will do the job.


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A local shop here in Helena, MT has 2 375's on the rack, a used weatherby hunter that they are asking $850 for and a Whitworth that belongs to one of the guys in the shop and is asking $1250. I will get you the phone number if interested.

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Boy....I want a 375 bad, but I will bide my time and look for a great deal.

Today, I had a gun broker call me with the following:

375H&H, Browning A-Bolt Stainless, Synthetic Stock for $799.

I know the A-Bolt has a bad rep in Alaska for a complicated trigger that rusts up...but is the Stainless model a good choice?

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Just take your 325 wizzum and shoot straight. If you don't care for recoil, don't get a big gun! I've dabbled with big and bigger guns, and have seen the light that while they are good for grins at the range, I don't care for them in the field, and it's not that I don't shoot them just as well as more reasonable rounds.


Great point my friend. Maybe my 325WSM is enough "juice" for anything in North America.

I suppose I could take the stand that my 270WSM and my 325WSM are all I need.




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I sure wouldn't call an A-Bolt at 800 bucks a good deal..........keep looking.....

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For DG I have 3 calibers to choose from. A Model 70 in both 416 Rem Mag and 375 H&H and a Tikka Stainless Synthetic in 9.3x62mm ( can be had in 338 Win Mag).

The 416 weighs close to 11 lbs with scope/bases and 3 + 1 rounds. The 375 is about 1 lb lighter - same configuration.

The 9.3x62 is just over 6.5lbs with mounts/scope + a synthetic mag holding 5 rounds.

If its a serious walk, and Elephant is not on the menu (in my case unlikely), its a no brainer as to which rifle I will take!

Food for thought.

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Today, I had a gun broker call me with the following:
375H&H, Browning A-Bolt Stainless, Synthetic Stock for $799.
I know the A-Bolt has a bad rep in Alaska for a complicated trigger that rusts up...but is the Stainless model a good choice?


There are a lot of 375's out there. Most work pretty well. My personal opinion is the Browning would be below the bottom of the list. In fact, it probably would not even be on the list.


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