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If you can't get it done out to 500 yds with a 708 something is very seriously wrong. Well your no fun I just want some more umphhhhh past 300yards, flatter shooting past 300 would be nice as well, I'm not a turret dialing pro like most you you long range guys
Location Western NC, after alot of other places
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If you can't get it done out to 500 yds with a 708 something is very seriously wrong. Well your no fun I just want some more umphhhhh past 300yards, flatter shooting past 300 would be nice as well, I'm not a turret dialing pro like most you you long range guys Yeah, I was afraid he was going to use that nasty, four letter word, NEED, a Loony's worse nightmare... DF
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Well it really is a need if ya look at it justtttt right
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If building another rifle is the objective, then long throat a 7RM and call it good No sense in gettin' a 7mag, when a 280ai does it mo' betta' flame on
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
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If building another rifle is the objective, then long throat a 7RM and call it good No sense in gettin' a 7mag, when a 280ai does it mo' betta' flame on 280 AI doesn't do [bleep] better than a 7 Rem, except horn people up. How many times are you going to post the GIF of you combing your hair? Tanner
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I have a 7saum last 2 years, have had a few other 7mag ,280ai ect,
next to my 300stw shooting 200gr acubond about 3100 fps this 7 saum is by far the easiest one shot killing rifle I have shot, been shooting it 3 years ,a bunch of big game and almost 100 coyotes,, until last month been shooting the 168 berger hybrid at about 2900, now shooting the 168 longrange accubond at 2950, coyote kills out to 916 yards big game taken out to 765 , one shot cold bore kills, maybe the rifle maybe the cartridge,
I am going to give it to my 12 yr old kid and build a new lighter weight 6.5 saum,,
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How does the LRAB compare with the Berger Hybrid?
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As many times as it takes tanner Mo betta' is mo betta'
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
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That's a lotta dogs! I'm jealous!!!!!!
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Hold the Kool-Aid, and pass the drama-free displacement...
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I love my 280AI but I picked up a 7 SAUM so i could make a 6.5 SAUM. Problem is I shot it and it is a fantastically accurate rifle and now I feel the need to shoot it until the barrel is toast and then downsize it .5mm.
What you are hearing is true, those two rounds are interchangeable for speed, just different action sizes. The once thing about the 280 is you can use standard 280 rem brass and just shoot it and they fire form, SAUM brass is pretty rare right now, and the prices it is demanding is ridiculous, just look at gun broker and other places. The nosler stuff, when you can find it, is $50.00+ for 25 pieces.
Enough already, just shoot it!
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Drama free, to ill effects.
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
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Nosler brass (280ai) is 68.99/50 in stock at Brownells
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
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You bet. The 7RM is drama free to ill effect on critters. None of them ever felt very chipper after the bang switch was hit, so I guess you're right...
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On a long action I would go .280AI. You are safely nipping on the heels of a 7RM with less powder, less recoil, brass abounds and you get an extra round in the magazine. Win/win in my book and I have the 7RM. Next will be the WSM but in a short action
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Any chance either one of your 7-08's is on a savage long also?
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280AI's fill a nonexistent void between the 280 and the 7mag. Gimme the "big" 7 and some 180 VLD's please.
Of the cartridges up for debate, I really like the 7 saum.
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I am a big 7mm fan currently with 2 7.-08's a 284 and 280, yes alot of overlap. To the op, if you are looking for more speed with heavier bullets and no recoil, I would look at a straight up 280, 160's should do 2800+ and kill as far as you can shoot. I do like the sham wow for efficiency but just have not owned one, I would also agree if going for the heavies, 1:9 would do you good.
George, the 280ai is a tremendous round but no matter what you do, it is not a 7 RM, and no, I am not a fan of the RM but facts are facts, also check the recoil calculators as everyone talks about the 280ai and non magnum recoil, the difference is much less then you think.
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280AI's fill a nonexistent void between the 280 and the 7mag. Gimme the "big" 7 and some 180 VLD's please.
Of the cartridges up for debate, I really like the 7 saum. You do know the 7mm SAUM and the 280AI have the same case capacity? I'll take the SAUM over 7RM anyday, that is, if I can keep enough brass for it. Hard to find of late.
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Keep your 7-08s and learn to shoot long with them.
Or, get a 7RemMag and get a certain increase in everything, including recoil.
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