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Sweet.
How much can I sell you at 65 a brick?

Yeah that's my point it seems any new machines and equipment would quickly be paid for. Not much net in rimfire ammo I guess?

ATK went a different way.
They bought Savage and Bushnell.

They diversified...... cause they know when this is over, they will be laying off workers and going back to "normal" production.

Hey you wouldn't happen to live over in east tx would you? I think that might be you and your family next to my deer lease out having a good time every Saturday afternoon

Your story is pretty extraordinary but I don't think it is rare. Great way to bring up some excellent marksmen.

A small fraction.

The vast majority of the shortage is caused by retail stores selling 100% below the market value.

That's why the stores like Cheaper Than Dirt have inventory, and Wal-Mart and Big R's do not.

If the retail stores would jack their pricing for the next year, things would level off. Until they do, there will be a shortage.


Travis

Not a single one. I have been buying here and there, but I havent bought a single round at anything other than normal prices. The shop I frequent keeps what they get for regular customers and those who buy guns from them. They dont mark it up to anything but normal prices.

2,000 rounds a Saturday eh?

Ok.


Travis

Don't start with broke... I"m probably teh lowest paid city inspector in existance. Wife makes more than I do.

Ammo is a choice. If you can't afford much, then you don't shoot much.

Of course when ammo was afforable a case of 5000 rounds wasn't that much. You do like we did. Skip a meal out. Dont' buy beer for the next month. Eat hot dogs. I eat a PBJ sandwhich quite often. It offsets my priorities. But when I eat a ribeye, then I know that I might not be able to pay for bait, or another box or two of shotgun shells. Or the gas to drive over to the lake to duck hunt and so on.

I believe the number I quoted was 1000-1500, not 2000. Of course, 1500 is the upper end, but 1000 is not abnormal. Me, my daughter, my wife, and maybe another friend, thats 250 a piece. harld much shooting. Hell, 500rd of 9mm or .223 is fairly normal in a range trip.

I have got to hand it to you, you do like to shoot

Ok. Not sure where you live but we shoot gophers all spring and early summer and I'm not averaging 1,500 rounds a Saturday. And myself as well as everybody else I know throttled way back this season due to lack of inventory.


Travis


Travis

I have throttled back, as well. I am in no way attempting to insinuate that ammo is not harder to find that it once was. I was trying to make the point that 20,000 rd of .22 is not very much. Further, I never once said I am shooting 1500rd every Saturday, only that 1500rd is not out of line on a Saturday outing to the range. How often those Saturdays happen is variable, based on schedule, weather, etc.

Thankfully, I have managed to maintain a fairly decent amount of stock on hand. It has dipped somewhat, to around 10,000rd, which makes me uncomfortable. I have simply resorted to shooting a lot more 9mm, .223, and .45, of which I have plenty, and can readily make more of.

Exactly.

IF a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his azz.

Well I have 7000 rounds of 22LR but the last brick I bought was in 2006! Ammo here in CT has been spotty to you can buy all the shotgun shells you want. The shortage has been with the 9mm 40 and 45 pistol 22 LR 223 308 for the most part. I seen 270 30-06 on the shelf in most places and since I shoot a 7mm RM I have not had a problem finding ammo. I have enough to keep me in venison for the next 35 years- on an expenditure of two shots to check zero and two shots to fill the two tags I get. We have some new laws here, we have to get a permit just to buy ammo now, and there is the Long gun and shotgun permit that takes effect next April. I been told not to even bother with those just do a Pistol Permit and be done with it. Since the other two is pretty much the same. The only bright side is that Crossbows are now ok for deer hunting and we can hunt deer with them till the last day in Jan. Also on Sunday now on private land. Archery only. I don't see any end in sight to this, till the next mid term and the Democrats loose the Senate, and then loose the White House in 2016. Even then its going to take years for things to get back to some what normal. I am still going to shoot, but I am also going to spend more time with Archery- longer season and well I am still going to hunt.

Right. So do I. And I have a schit ton of the stuff, but I'm still throttling back and not buying excessive amounts when I find it.

Which was wageslave's point when he wrote the post regarding the arbitrary number of 20,000.


Travis

For the first time, TAK is right.

Asking people not to buy and sell high is stupid. Thinking people won't snatch up what they find when something is in demand is ridiculous.

The price dictates flow. Retail stores need to jack their prices until things level off. Nobody likes to hear it. Nobody wants to say it, but business is business and things will not level off until the retail stores price the product based on the market.

If gas was being sold @ 1.99 at a gas station, and all the other gas stations were selling it 3.99, which gas station do you think will go empty first?

It ain't complicated.


Travis

"The price is what the market will bear."
Eco 101
The only thing that stuck with me. Lol

Thou shalt not dispute TheWarrior.

Leviticus [bleep].



Travis

Lol. I've only got about 5000. Last week my lgs had plenty of everything. Loaded ammo. However, their prices reflect the current market. Also, they have a one brick minimum on .22. I also checked with the nearest academy sports. They don't have the one box of each rule they had all summer and their prices where close to Wally's. Wal mart here at the grape had a few cases of champion .45. It was 23 bucks. I didn't buy any. They also had some fed .223 packs in 250 or so that I had never seen before. It feels like it's coming back strong here though I'm still waiting for some lil gun and rl15.