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.280:

Glad to see you're starting to cool off. Barak and others have steered you right.

VAnimrod knows, and I certainly know, and YOU certainly know that some of your clients come to your office after treading the path that you wisely - wisely, my friend - stepped away from.

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- TJM

I don't live in a neighborhood with HOA'a, but I do live in a neighborhood with courteous people. Nearly everyone cleans up after their dog/dogs. When my dog died, and I did get some poop in my yard, I was not happy. I was under the assumption that I wouldn't have to clean up dog poop any more. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> However, on one occasion, before my dog died, she got out, completely without me knowing. I was taking a nap, the neighbor brought her home, and gave me a royal butt-chewing, the dog had gotten into her garbage. Completely our fault. So I offered to clean it up, appologized and all that. She kept chewing on me. I offered and appologized again, she kept chewing on me. I finally told her how many times I had offered to clean it up, how many times I appologized and did she want me to clean it up, or did she just want to b$tch at me? That sort of caught her off guard and she said, "Well, if you really want to clean it up, that would be nice." Of course I cleaned it up, but she ragged on me the whole time! Some people just need something to complain about.

She also claimed it was a repeat offense. It was not, there were/are several yellow labs in the neighborhood, mine just got out that one day and got caught.

Keep you dog contained one way or another and you'll know it's not your dog messing on someone else's lawn.

M

Stetson,

My dog has never destroyed anything! He may have crapped somewhere, but never destroyed anything. I never said I don't care either. I said I don't appreciate the childish reaction. Im used to living where I can let my dog loose. Most times I stand in the yard with him and he doesn't leave. I have been guilty of being busy and let him go for a while. I get some people might take offense, and I would profusely apologize if they'd have said somethng...as wrong as what I did was, I assure you I wont apologize to someone that would do what they did, even if they were wronged by me.

You had to know that somehow, some way, somebody could bring in the fact that Im a lawyer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Invite them to join the campfire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />... They'll either fit right in, pop a hose, or be so busy sparring with everyone else, they won't have TIME to mess with you....

Sounds like there's definately an @$$hole, and it ain't the neighbors.....

280, been there buddy, A few years ago I was in a neighborhood like yours when I had a neighbors dog pooping my yard. I went to him not once but twice, he didnt care and for the most part I find that people that let there dog do it and KNOW their dog is doing it, don't care in the first place.

If I found poop on my driveway after knowing my dog was out I would not wait for my neighbors to come to me. I would be going to them!

280 the fact that your a barrister is relevant because you sir are educated in the law and type of neighbor I would want to look to to be reasonable and obey the law. You know you can not let a dog run in a neighborhood. You know you can not let your dog deficate on some one elses lawn. That does destroy shrubs and lawns. If your renting wait until you buy a house and you will have the great pleasure of finding out how expensive sod and shrubs are. I think you also need to respect that some folks in this world hate confrontation and yes, even dogs. I'm glad to see you admidt you were wrong and correct that behavior. In my book that's the mark of an educated adult. The reaction of putting the poo back was over the top and childish but decorating a rake just to wet your neighbors cheerios isn't exactly going to win you any good manners awards. Remember theese folks are your neighbors and fighting with your neighbors is about the most unpleasant thing you can do in life.

SU and Stetson,

I failed to admit I was wrong in the original post. However I sort of did by saying I understood these neighbors not wanting my dog crapping in their yard and that my problem was not with that, but their way of handling it. I made an error in judgement letting my dog run loose primarily because Im used to living in a place where I can legally do that, and not have anyone complain. Even educated people make errors. My personality is the type that had someone come to me, even in anger, and said leash your dog, or sent me a letter, I definatly would have gone to them hat in hand and apologized AND fixed the problem. Their childish reaction to a minor and infrequent problem (I usually, though not always, went out with my dog to ensure he stayed in my yard) pissed me off, and blinded me even more to my own responsibility for the problem. Its like what happened to me one time with a big "meat-headed" redneck. I was walking with friends and we were at an outdoor function that was kind of crowded. I wasn't paying attention as I was talking to someone and bumped in to this "meat head". He was with his trashy girlfriend and I guess thought he needed to prove how tough he was. Before anything was said I reacted with an "excuse me, Im sorry". He proceded to start with "hey buddy, watch where you're going...pay attention next time why don't ya" and on and on. He sort of half bowed up thinking he was just posturing and I'd slink off...after a few seconds of looking at him like "you're crazy man" I said: "fine then you a$$hole, f**k you...I already said excuse me Im sorry." I bowed up and dared him...he didn't take the bait. (thank goodness as I was betting he was all bark and no bite, and Im the kind that is neither if I can help it, but I aint a doormat either) Its like you can make a mistake or misstep, and know you have and even be contrite about it, but if the reaction is so out of proportion, you begin to not care you made the mistake.

Don't move to the Country. If you let your dog loose, he's likely to be shot by some redneck yahoo when he defecates on or otherwise destroys some one else's property.

There is that possibility...

For some that seems to be fitting punishment. One thing I know....my dog never did anything wrong...though the owner might have.

280-

Life is too short...pack up and move!

Until then put your dog on an overhead cable-run, take a pocketful of grocery sacks in your pocket when you walk your dog and pick up his [bleep].

You don't need to kiss your neighbor's a$$es, but don't go out of your way to pissem off.

YMMV:)

IMO Barak nailed it... If the neighbor continues be behave like an ass after an attempt to make peace... well, I thought VA's suggestion has the potential to be entertaining<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

One major problem...I don't know who it is. I sure don't want to accuse without knowing. However, I will not apologize to someone that has done that. No cookies, nothing. Had I been given the courtesy of seeing if I would continue being an [bleep]...I can assure you I would not have...but I wasn't afforded that chance.

Lots of good replies above. Take your pick.

I will NEVER, EVER live in a house that I have to abide by some HOA... It's why I live in the country, and will live in the country until they carry my sorry butt out to the hearse..

That said, I had a somewhat similar incident a coupla years ago. When I clear snow from my fairly substantial driveway, part of it gets pushed across the road into the far ditch. After a few snows it had built up a bit but I always watch it to make sure it doesn't pose a drifting hazard. One morning my son takes a call from a 'private number' (mistake #1)and it's some woman who's bitching about the snow in the ditch (mistake #2) . Adam tried to have her hold so he could call me to the phone but she wouldn't (mistake #3). After Adam told me that she was complaining, guess what I did?

Every snowfall after that had me bringing ALL the snow I could find out to that same ditch. I also called the phone company to have them install 'private number blocking'. So, next time she, or any other whiner, calls they'll have to use their regular number.

If she'd called again I was going to give her several suggestions as to what she should do; ranging from "use a different road" to "move to FL., " to "mind your own damn business" to "tell God to make it quit snowing"..

Re: the dog issue.. Gotta agree that if you live in a town/city etc., you better keep your dog on a leash and have it crap in your own yard. Dogs that run loose around these parts will just disappear.. I would find out via camera who's leaving the piles, visit them with hat in hand and apologize for your dog and tell 'em it won't happen again.

Love the rake deal though.. I'd have done the same thing but I would have added a shovel, a hoe and whatever else I could find to lean up against the garage.. Too many freakin rules/regs when it comes to city livin'....

Best to you.

EmphASSES on you continuing to be an a**. Your words. You started the problem and what are you upset about counsler? You played dirty and they played back. You got just what you gave. Littoraly. Clean it up and move on. Good grief.

I see one flaw in your reasoning: you are assuming the person who complained about the rake is the same person who complained about your dog. Not necessarily so.

It takes two to create an adversarial relationship. Refuse to participate in the game--let the ball drop.

if you are going to move anyway, pull out all the stops after you identify your tormentor, and just hound them until you leave.
Sometimes I don't know whats worse, bad neighbors or pontificating holier than thou types on BBS.

Not trying to justify the old bats reasoning, but in some counties it's against the law to push snow across a road.