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They�re still pulling the wool over some eyes, friends. So let�s call them out yet again
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I was recently interviewed on Fox News Sunday. One question I answered was prefaced with the supposed �fact� that �30 million MORE people will be covered by Obamacare.� That statistic is about as credible a promise as �if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan.�

Obamacare is presently hitting people who buy insurance on the individual market because they may not receive health coverage through their employers.
It�s hurting millions! But you ain�t seen nuthin� yet.
Just wait until the Obamacare employer mandate kicks in next year.

As I told Fox News Sunday, despite what the White House and media report, tens of millions more Americans are set to lose their employer provided insurance plans. The ramifications of this WILL fundamentally transform America.

The article linked today at the top of Drudge confirms my point, which is significant because my point was mocked until this article confirmed it. Headline: �Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict.�

Companies that provide health insurance plans that aren�t compliant with new burdensome Obamacare mandates will obviously decide it�s cheaper to dump employees into the government-run Obamacare exchanges and pay the penalty than try to provide an expensive Obamacare-approved plan.

No one in America will be left unscathed by Obamacare. Please trust me on this.
The media can repeat all the bogus White House stats they want about false claims like the individual mandate �only affects 5% of the public,� but they can�t change reality � NUMBERS DON�T LIE � and America is about to get �mugged by reality� very soon, to paraphrase Irving Kristol.

Far from providing more Americans with insurance, Obamacare is ironically hurting the very people it was sold to as some kind of health care savior.
More people will choose to pay the IRS penalty and go without insurance because they can�t afford the increased rates slamming them, plus they now have fewer options in this one-size-fits-all expensive bureaucratic exchange which forces people to buy coverage for things they don�t want nor need.

We�re talking about one-sixth more of our economy controlled now by big government, remember.

Do not forget that Obamacare contains health care rationing.
When I warned America about �death panels,� I was denounced as a liar.
But now the reality of �death panels� is openly admitted, even touted by some liberals as their solution.

Just yesterday yet another prominent liberal media lapdog joined the chorus in finally admitting that death panel-style rationing is �built into the plan. It�s not like a guess or like a judgment. That�s going to be part of how costs are controlled."

This guy and his ilk need to apologize to all of you, NOW, who knew what I was talking about, repeated my warnings, and were mocked and criticized for it. (Don�t hold your breath.)

The truth is the �enlightened ones� knew all along that rationing was in the plan. They were angry with me for saying it out loud.

The twin pillars of Obamacare have always been redistribution and rationing.

Take away one of those pillars and the whole thing crumbles.
That�s why Obamacare is doomed.

You were smart enough to know that, while they were arrogant enough to keep up a deceitful ruse until their White House control was guaranteed.
They�re busted now, though. And that�s why they�re scrambling to distract you and hope you won�t realize how enormously important upcoming elections are to save our economy.

The redistribution aspect will be Obamacare�s undoing. Not enough young or healthy people will apply for Obamacare because it�s simply unaffordable.
It makes NO economic sense for them to voluntarily sign up. They�ll choose to pay the IRS fine instead.
This will bankrupt the whole Ponzi scheme, which is premised on young and healthy people paying for those who are sick or have pre-existing conditions.

And when Obamacare fails, the left will push to have us move to full socialized medicine under a so-called �single payer plan.�
This is exactly what Barack Obama touted as a candidate, as did many of his bureaucratic appointees, but the media glossed over that all these years
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Friends, the only way to fix Obamacare is to scrap this stuffed turkey and start over with genuine free market, patient-centered reforms that allow people to purchase insurance across state lines, enact tort reform, and give individual insurance buyers the same breaks we give employer provided insurance.

And we need to elect leaders who will fight for us to get it done.

Keep all of this in mind this week as we break for Thanksgiving. Be warned the White House is arming leftist supporters with �talking points� to try to convince family and friends around the Thanksgiving table that Obamacare is the greatest thing since sliced pumpkin bread.
You should politely let them know you�re not swallowing that turkey.

Thank you for doing your own homework, for trusting the truth I�ve expressed, and for refusing to let the �enlightened ones� keep America in the dark.
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Here�s the article linked at the top of Drudge today:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...redicted-tens-millions-would-lose-plans/

Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict

By Jim Angle
Published November 26, 2013
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Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.

Their losses would be in addition to the millions who found their individual coverage cancelled for the same reason.

Stan Veuger of the American Enterprise Institute said that in addition to the individual cancellations, "at least half the people on employer plans would by 2014 start losing plans as well."
There are approximately 157 million employer health care policy holders.
Avik Roy of the Manhattan Institute added, "the administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the Affordable Care Act."

Last week, an analysis by the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, showed the administration anticipates half to two-thirds of small businesses would have policies canceled or be compelled to send workers onto the ObamaCare exchanges. They predicted up to 100 million small and large business policies could be canceled next year.

According to projections the administration itself issued back in July 2010, it was clear officials knew the impact of ObamaCare three years ago.

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.
The reason behind the losses is that current plans don't meet the requirements of ObamaCare, which dictate that each plan must cover a list of essential benefits, whether people want them or not.

"Things like maternity care or acupuncture or extensive drug coverage," said Veuger. "And so now the law is going to force them to buy policies that they could have gotten in the past if they wanted to but they chose not to."

Some plans already have been canceled and employers are getting sticker shock at the new, higher prices under ObamaCare.
One of them is David Allen, president of a company bearing his name in Boulder, Colorado. He told a Congressional hearing recently that his carrier discontinued his company policy because it wasn't compliant with ObamaCare.

"It does not meet the minimum standards as stipulated under the law. Due to this one change," he said, "our premiums are now scheduled to increase by 52.3 percent in January 2014."

Roy said that is not unusual. "The old plans that are being cancelled are meaningfully cheaper than the new plans that are ObamaCare compliant."

A new wave of cancellations and sticker shock will emerge just before next year's elections.

"They're going to start doing that in the summer or early fall but certainly before the midterm elections," said Veuger.

Jim Angle currently serves as chief national correspondent for Fox News Channel (FNC). He joined FNC in 1996 as a senior White House correspondent


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Obamacare is NOT about getting medical care for those who can't afford it. Never has been, never will be. It is a Socialist power grab straight from Sol Alinsky's communist manifesto, "Rules For Radicals".


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Mark Halperin: Why yes, there are death panels in ObamaCare

NEWSMAX: The Affordable Care Act contains provisions for "death panels," which decide which critically-ill patients receive care and which won't, according to Mark Halperin, senior political analyst for Time magazine.

"It's built into the plan. It's not like a guess or like a judgment. That's going to be part of how costs are controlled," Halperin told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

Posted on November 26 2013
STEVE MALZBERG: I think they focused on the death panels which will be coming, call them what you will. Rationing is part of it.

MARK HALPERIN: I agree. Huge. It�s going to be a huge issue, and that�s something else about which the President was not fully forthcoming and straightforward.

MALZBERG: Alright, so you believe that there will be rationing, AKA death panels.

HALPERIN: It�s built into the plan. It�s not like a guess or like a judgment. That�s going to be part of how costs are controlled


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Why Obamacare is a Fantastic Success
By Wayne Allyn Root

There are 2 major political parties in America. I�m a member of the na�ve, stupid, and cowardly one. I�m a Republican. How stupid is the GOP? They still don�t get it. I told them 5 years ago, 2 books ago, a national bestseller ago (�The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide�), and in hundreds of articles and commentaries, that Obamacare was never meant to help America, or heal the sick, or lower healthcare costs, or lower the debt, or expand the economy.

The GOP needs to stop calling Obamacare a �trainwreck.� That means it�s a mistake, or accident. That means it�s a gigantic flop, or failure. It�s NOT. This is a brilliant, cynical, and purposeful attempt to damage the U.S. economy, kill jobs, and bring down capitalism. It�s not a failure, it�s Obama�s grand success. It�s not a �trainwreck,� Obamacare is a suicide attack. He wants to hurt us, to bring us to our knees, to capitulate- so we agree under duress to accept big government.

Obama�s hero and mentor was Saul Alinsky- a radical Marxist intent on destroying capitalism. Alinksky�s stated advice was to call the other guy �a terrorist� to hide your own intensions. To scream that the other guy is �ruining America,� while you are the one actually plotting the destruction of America. To claim again and again�in every sentence of every speech�that you are �saving the middle class,� while you are busy wiping out the middle class.

The GOP is so stupid they can�t see it. There are no mistakes here. This is a planned purposeful attack. The tell-tale sign isn�t the disastrous start to Obamacare. Or the devastating effect the new taxes are having on the economy. Or the death of full-time jobs. Or the overwhelming debt. Or the dramatic increases in health insurance rates. Or the 70% of doctors now thinking of retiring- bringing on a healthcare crisis of unimaginable proportions. Forget all that.

The real sign that this is a purposeful attack upon capitalism is how many Obama administration members and Democratic Congressmen are openly calling Tea Party Republicans and anyone who wants to stop Obamacare �terrorists.� There�s the clue. Even the clueless GOP should be able to see that. They are calling the reasonable people�the patriots�the people who believe in the Constitution�the people who believe exactly what the Founding Fathers believed�the people who want to take power away from corrupt politicians who have put America $17 trillion in debt�terrorists?

That�s because they are Saul Alinsky-ing the GOP. The people trying to purposely hurt America, capitalism and the middle class�are calling the patriots by a terrible name to fool, confuse and distract the public.

Obamacare is a raving, rollicking, fantastic success. Stop calling it a failure. Here is what it was created to do. It is succeeding on all counts.

#1) Obamacare was intended to bring about the Marxist dream- redistribution of wealth. Rich people, small business owners, and the middle class are being robbed, so that the money can be redistributed to poor people (who vote Democrat). Think about it. If you�re rich or middle class, you now have to pay for your own healthcare costs (at much higher rates) AND 40 million other people�s costs too (through massive tax increases). So you�re stuck paying for both bills. You are left broke. Brilliant.

#2) Obamacare was intended to wipe out the middle class and make them dependent on government. Think about it. Even Obama�s IRS predicts that health insurance for a typical American family by 2016 will be $20,000 per year. But how would middle class Americans pay that bill and have anything left for food or housing or living? People that make $40K, or $50K, or $60K can�t possibly hope to spend $20K on health insurance without becoming homeless. Bingo. That�s how you make middle class people dependent on government. That�s how you make everyone addicted to government checks. Brilliant.

#3) As a bonus, Obamacare is intended to kill every decent paying job in the economy, creating only crummy, crappy part-time jobs. Why? Just to make sure the middle class is trapped, with no way out. Just to make sure no one has the $20,000 per year to pay for health insurance, thereby guaranteeing they become wards of the state. Brilliant.

#4) Obamacare is intended to bankrupt small business, and therefore starve donations to the GOP. Think about it. Do you know a small business owner? I know hundreds of them. Their rates are being doubled, tripled and quadrupled by Obamacare. Guess who writes 75% of the checks to Republican candidates and conservative causes? Small business. Even if a small business owner manages to survive, he or she certainly can�t write a big check to the GOP anymore. Money is the �mother�s milk� of politics. Without donations, a political party ceases to exist. Bingo. That�s the point of Obamacare. Obama is bankrupting his political opposition and drying up donations to the GOP. Brilliant.

#5) Obamacare is intended to make the IRS all-powerful. It adds thousands of new IRS agents. It puts the IRS in charge of overseeing 15% of the U.S. economy. The IRS has the right because of Obamacare to snoop into every aspect of your life, to go into your bank accounts, to fine you, to frighten you, to intimidate you. And Obama and his socialist cabal have access to your deepest medical secrets. By law your doctor has to ask your sexual history. That information is now in the hands of Obama and the IRS to blackmail GOP candidates into either not running, or supporting bigger government, or leaking the info and ruining your campaign. Or have you forgotten the IRS harassed, intimidated and persecuted critics of Obama and conservative groups? Now Obama hands the IRS even more power. Big Brother rules our lives. Brilliant.

#6) Obamacare is intended to unionize 15 million healthcare workers. That produces $15 billion in new union dues. That money goes to fund Democratic candidates and socialist causes- thereby guaranteeing Obama�s friends never lose another election, and Obama�s policies keep ruining capitalism and bankrupting business owners long after he�s out of office.

Message to the GOP: This isn�t a game. This isn�t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to highjack America and destroy capitalism. This isn�t a trainwreck. It�s purposeful suicide. It�s not failing, it�s working exactly according to plan. Obama knows what he�s doing. Stop apologizing and start fighting.
Oh and one more thing�Conservatives aren�t �terrorists.� We are patriots and saviors. We represent the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. We are the heroes and good guys. Unless you get all this through your thick skulls, America is lost�forever.

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You can fool all the people some of the time but really this is nothing more than a new F ing tax.


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Sure makes for a good show, all the fighting back and forth, Republican/Democrat. I've been saying all along these are not stupid people, (democrats) they know exactly what they're doing. I think the Republicans are in on it. They're not stupid people either.


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Obamacare is NOT about getting medical care for those who can't afford it. Never has been, never will be. It is a Socialist power grab straight from Sol Alinsky's communist manifesto, "Rules For Radicals".



This is dead nuts on, but most everyone, include alot of Pubicans, talk about Obamacare like it's about care. I don't understand that.




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Originally Posted by Plinker
Obamacare is NOT about getting medical care for those who can't afford it. Never has been, never will be. It is a Socialist power grab straight from Sol Alinsky's communist manifesto, "Rules For Radicals".

Spot on, Plinker....spot on..


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This is dead nuts on, but most everyone, include alot of Pubicans, talk about Obamacare like it's about care. I don't understand that.
I do.. It's because THEY HAVE NO BALLS....


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This is dead nuts on, but most everyone, include alot of Pubicans, talk about Obamacare like it's about care. I don't understand that.
I do.. It's because THEY HAVE NO BALLS....


If you stand way back, out of the media fray, and at look at the direction the country is going, you have to acknowledge sooner or later that the Republicans are part of the problem. We have NO representation, NONE, from either party. They like to put on a show that they're fighting for us, and certainly if they actually did stand in the gap on our behalf and say NO to the tyrants I could believe, but I see no saying NO.
What I see is what you call "No balls", but I think it goes deeper than that.
These guys all go to the same ivy league schools and country clubs. They're taught and influenced by the same crowds, how is it that you think you're getting opposing representation when the results show one long slow slide into our current govt's policies?

Has the country somehow stopped it's slow slide to hell due to the Republicans standing in the gap for us? Decades of continuous decline. I understand the Republicans are our only hope and that there is, at least to hear them tell it, a difference in their approach to governance.
I guess I'm to the place where I've questioned why they "have no balls". Could it be that the whole thing is a complex facade made to keep the electorate off balance with what's really happened to our once great country? To give us "our party" that we can rally behind in the valiant fight, all the while BOTH parties lead us to perdition?
I can't overlook the steady decline of our country and the switching back and forth of our leadership, the connections in schooling of the candidates from both parties, and the results of eithers leadership.
Both are letting us down, at the best. At the worst, both are deceiving us. It's already been established that one party is deceiving us. What makes you think they both aren't?
They share so much in common, including the result of decline, that it's hard to be optimistic.

* and yes, I understand the ramifications in our two party elections if just a few percent of people feel what I've stated here with strong enough conviction to vote third party.

Most people will not abandon these two parties, but I think the record proves that these two parties will sink our country.

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How stupid do you have to be,even before all the lies about "keeping your insurance,and doctors and pass it to read it BS from pelosi" As soon as he said we're going to insure 30 million more unisured people and our insurance is not going up..I saw the writing on the wall...


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I am not afraid of the Bogeyman.

In 2008 a lot of voters of all colors turn out to vote for the first charismatic black president, even though he was an unknown with no record.
They turned out to vote against the Bush record.
And McCain and his Staff Stupids made it easy for them.

To his credit, Mac did put a Charismatic Conservative in his VP spot.
That CC and the lady in the OP of this thread did give us a glimpse of what might have been in terms of enthusiastic crowd numbers and a temporary first place in the polls. So the same Staff Stupids who did not want a hockey mom from outside the GOPe in the first place; locked Sarah in her hotel room.

Then the financial crisis hit just in time for the election. It was all over.
Obama all the way:
Electoral vote 365 to 173
Popular vote 69,498,516 to 59,948,323
Percentage 52.9% to 45.7%

It took only two years for the Conservatives to come back in 2010 and give this country the largest Conservative Landslide of any mid-term election�ever.

The largest shift in power since 1938. With the help of a new, loose knit group called the Tea Party; the GOP gained 63 House seats, 6 Senate seats, 29 of 50 Governorships, and 680 State Legislative seats that gave the GOP control of 25 state legislatures.

That election was Historic and it was about just the coming threat of ObamaCare.

In 2012 the GOPe using some of the same McCain Staff Stupids shut out the Conservative/Tea Party almost completely and got the same results as they did 4 years before.
Don�t get me started on that Cluster [bleep]�y�all know how I can get.


2012 was closer but it was still Obama:
Electoral vote 332 to 206
Popular vote 65,915,796 to 60,933,500
Percentage 51.1% to 47.2%

Now one year later ObamaCare is no longer just a threat.
It is here and it is bad news. Real bad news and on track to be far worse before the next mid-term in less than one year.

If the Liberals can keep it on track. The numbers are not looking good for them to do that. Not looking good for them in 2014 or 2016.

I can see no way in Hell that Conservatives will not greatly expand our base in 2014. Just as we did in 2010. Show me where I am wrong.

That will give us a better chance to take control and run a Charismatic Conservative in 2016. A better chance than we had in 1980 without a Tea Party.
I remember that election. I voted for a Conservative who gave us two Landslides.

Some say someone like Reagan will never come again and it is too late to turn the ship around.

I say I�m not afraid of the Bogeyman. What ObamaCare has done to Liberalism is giving me a warm fuzzy feeling.
The numbers are telling the tale. The Bogeyman ain�t near as big as some have claimed.

The next two, make that four, elections? Bring �em on!

We have a better than great shot for a big win in 2014; take the Senate away from the Bogeyman.

That will put a strong Conservative bench on the field in 2016. Give us a Winner.

Give that Winner both Houses and his/her conservative agenda will take care of the next elections though 2020. All of them.


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2013 Conservatives4Palin
November 27 2013 by: Steve Flesher


Via Twitchy:
There are many people falling for a fake �news� story which quotes Sarah Palin as saying �Thanksgiving is for real Americans not Indians.�

Among those who were in such a rush to believe the obvious satire were actor Billy Campbell and actress/singer Emily Osment:
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The Palin haters got in such a rush to believe the �Sarah is dumb� hype created by the Left that they wound up exposing their own ignorance.
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"Palin Haters Fall for fake "Indian" Quotes.
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Snopes has also rated this one �false.�
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But try convincing the lefty tolerance brigade that Palin said no such thing. Facts � and civility � ain�t easy when you�re frothing at the mouth.


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[quote=Plinker]Obamacare is NOT about getting medical care for those who can't afford it. Never has been, never will be. It is a Socialist power grab straight from Sol Alinsky's communist manifesto, "Rules For Radicals".

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