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This just has to be among the basic truths of hunting. This truth is the reason I have been looking for a bullet that leaves an exit hole and helps to insure a blood trail that one can follow. Partitions are among the bullets I now prefer.

I am a convert from the school of "bigger is better." A 270 with a 110 or 130 grain monometal pill is good medicine!

I'm getting 3100 w/130s, 3000 w/140s, and 2900 w/150s in my Tikka T3. I'm using this for deer, some times elk and black bear. Some of the shots at bear are 550. Does it really matter what weight I use?

Do you have an explanation for its overwhelming inferiority or is this simply your own personal observations and assumptions? [/quote]

My personal observations.

I agree with everyone that says it's the same as a 30-06, 280, etc. but for me I it has not been.

Take the buck I killed this year. I shot him quartering toward me at 94 yards. I was shooting off bog-pod. Barnes 130 grain TTSX in front of 60.0 grains H4831, sparked by 210M. Velocity right at 3000 fps. Bullet broke his right front shoulder, through the length of his body and lodged against the bone in left rear quarter. The deer ran 90-100 yards never leaving a drop of blood I could find and searched the trail back and forth twice.

I have shot deer with exact shot placement with a 30-06 and never took a step.

I have shot other deer that were the same way, little to no blood trail, shots that should have made them hit the ground they just take off running.

I really think it's just unlucky for me.

Dink [/quote]
Dink,
I have been using Barnes almost exclusively for many years and now Commiefornia mandates unleaded for the whole state. One of the problems that you sometimes run into is that when monometals have high impact velocity they tend to shed their petals and basically turn into a FMJ. That could have been the case with that buck. Maybe a NPT or some such would have worked better in that particular case?

Must be some truth to the size of the entrance hole, the size of the exit hole, and blood trails... I never hear anyone complain of the lack of a blood trail on whitetails when using a 444 Marlin or 45/70...

I shot two deer this year with a 270 and 150 gr. speer's. Both were drt. The second deer was literally knocked off it's feet. Double lung/heart shot.

How many animals have you killed with the 270, compared to the 30-06, 280, etc.?

Wild_Bill_375: Your contention that "Deer shot square in the chest with a 270 will run forever" IS simply bogus and outright untrue - based on my significant experience in this regard!
I am certain I have shot and/or seen shot at least 100 Deer (of 3 species) shot with 270 Winchester caliber Rifles and nary a ONE of them ran off more than a dozen quick leaps!
Let alone run off forever!
The vast majority of the 270 shot Deer I have seen are dead virtually in seconds IF NOT SOONER!
I am just flabbergasted that you would write such a thing!
It takes all kinds I guess?
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Good lord man don't take it as a personal attack! I'm glad you've had great success with the 270 Win. It's not a bogus or outright untruth based on my insignificant experience. Sorry you are flabbergasted! Certainly didn't mean to upset you or even flabbergast. The frigging cartridge never impressed me! So excuse me!

piss in to the wind
WildBill375

I have not killed near the game with a 270 win that I have with 30-06, 300 win or the 300 RUM.

I have used the 270 win for 20 years here and there but the last 3-4 years dedicated myself to using it all season. I have shot seven deer with it between 25 yards and 253 yards during this time (3-4 years) Of the seven four stopped bullets, four left no blood trail and one barely left blood and two dropped at the shot but one needed shot again(before anyone makes fun of my math skills some deer fall into more than category).

Dink

The 270 is the greatest caliber ever made.






That settles that debate.

If I loved the 270 I'd use it for everything here in Montana... 130,140,150... doesn't matter.

I just don't love it, personal quirk of which I have many

I DO love the 308 Win so that's where I hang my hat.

But the 270/130 combo will do everything as far as you care to. I've seen it too many times to think otherwise.

After years of using a 300 Win mag I decided to lighten up and a deal on a 270WSM came along. All I could say was AWESOME! Less recoil than my 30-06 and killing results of my 300. So I just acquired an M70 lightweight in 270 Win and hope it can make me as happy as the WSM has. My WSM likes 130's 140's and 150's but likes 150 Nosler BT's the best. Planning to go 130's in the standard 270 if it likes them.

Huh, interesting.

I'm on the other side of that coin. I really do respect the .270 cartridge and use it a lot, yet have no interest whatsoever for the .308 - even knowing full well it's virtues.

I'd buy a .308 because that's what the flavor of the day happen to be chambered in - not because it was a .308...

I inherited a Remington 721 in 270 from my father. Dad always used 130 grain bullets for big game. The rifle is a nail driver. He was one of those people who were such a great shot it was weird. Always knew where the bullet was going. He used to hunt moose out of Vanderhoof B.C. and never felt he needed anything bigger for Moose although the guys he hunted with always kept a win 300mag in camp for any bears that tried to break in to the meat house before the bush planes could fly it out. The 270 is a great, flat shooting gun. For any of the deer speices, Pronghorn or black bear you can't go wrong.

I figure Jack O'Conner is in Heaven. If he is, I know what he shoots.

Brad, its been way too long and I hope you are well! I've had a custom 270 for 6 or 7 years that is built on a rem ti action, #4 lilja tube and Mark Banser stock that shoot lights out. I have had multiple guns since building that gun, but I keep going back to it because it just freaking works. I have killed multiple elk, a mtn goat, speed goats and a pile of deer with this gun. The 150 VLD has just transformed this gun. It is a death ray on elk past 500 yards. I swore by 130s and now just love the downrange punch of the 150ies. You may want to play with the 270 with 150 VLD's........

The 308 is a killer round as well. Run some 185 VLD's in the thing and I think you will be surprised by how far it shoots with authority!

In the words of the immortal BobH.. IT just works! Shot 3 this year with the 270 2 with Plain ol blue box Fed 130's and one with the 110 ttsx...... weird thing happened... none of them made it over 10 yards! Ive shot deer with the 270 over the years using about every factory round made as well as a few handloads. To be honest they have all been fairly boring and simple. Gun go boom... deer go splat. For the record the 110ttsx's have been the most fun... Deer act like theyve stepped in front of claymore


I was laughing at 375's experiences with the 270... I cant imagine that happening but then again I have had some luck like thst with the 243 so its possible.

Ive got 3 of them but am fixing to sell one of them... a... 700 cm mT rifle and a couple of other guns... to buy a Kimber 84L IF I can find one.

The words "monometal, lung shots, and DRT" don't go together well in the same sentence, IME.


To the OP: Shoot some deer using Federal Fusion with your 270, and you'll have a different story to tell.