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Originally Posted by gitem_12
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It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.



I don't believe god made them that way. I think its a sad by product of our society


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God didn't make a [bleep] socitey did



You actually believe that?
you don't ? so tell you a f.a.g ?



LoL, is that what you took from that? Not gay, just don't care if someone is. I have friends and family that are, both men and women. They are all good folks. Sorry for you that you are so close minded. Carry on with your hate.
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Originally Posted by Anchorage
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It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.



I don't believe god made them that way. I think its a sad by product of our society



You mean our society since the beginning of mankind right? Gay men and women are not some new thing ya know. Its interesting to hear folks that believe being gay is just a choice someone decides to make at some point in their lives. At least the earth is still flat anyways.



There is no evidence that homosexuality is genetically determined (genetically determined as in the color of someone's eyes). It appears to be the result of a complex interplay of environmental and physicological factors. The bottom line, however, is that "anyone can become a homosexual, but no one has to be one". Interesting that men in prison, who were previously unquestioningly heterosexual, often engage in homosexual behavior when incarcerated and then, upon release, immediately revert back to heterosexual behavior and vehmently deny any homosexual encounters in prison. Genes are not at work in this scenario. The causal factors are entirely environmental.

In any event, even if homosexualty was found to be genetically or physiologically determined, that would constitute no evidence whatsoever that it is a positive behavior, beneficial to society.

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So why would someone choose to be homosexual, knowing what kind of problems it could mean for them? The men in prison thing is not a good example. You throw monsters in a cage together and anything can happen. I have a good friend that teaches grades 1-2. She said even at that age she can almost always tell with kids if they are gay. Many of them come from God fearing, hard working, hunting and fishing families. Maybe its the mercury in the fish huh?

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Originally Posted by djs
It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.


How can you make a declarative statement stating that "God made them"? Then say, "I don't understand" being gay?
I can only expect someone like you to follow up by saying "its none of my business".
I disagree! Its all of our business when the GLBT zealots tell us what we can say, think and act. Then they politic for their healthcare needs and make the heterosexuals pay for their lifestyle. They have subverted the meaning of marriage which is leading to other lifestyle arrangments which proceed to tear down societal standards. But I guess you wouldn't understand this.

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Being Gay is more of a Life Style Choice than Heredity . I could care less what your sexual choice in life is, just keep it in the bed room and don't think what you are doing should be made public every chance you get. No one really wants to know your are a Homo.


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Originally Posted by djs
It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.


How can you make a declarative statement stating that "God made them"? Then say, "I don't understand" being gay?
I can only expect someone like you to follow up by saying "its none of my business".
I disagree! Its all of our business when the GLBT zealots tell us what we can say, think and act. Then they politic for their healthcare needs and make the heterosexuals pay for their lifestyle. They have subverted the meaning of marriage which is leading to other lifestyle arrangments which proceed to tear down societal standards. But I guess you wouldn't understand this.


Now that is an issue I do have. The political power of it all. Equal is equal, and the zealots are not satisfied with that.

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I have a good friend that teaches grades 1-2. She said even at that age she can almost always tell with kids if they are gay.


Its funny your bring this up. I too have a friend who has taught K-2 for 28 years. I asked her about the gay identity aspect and she said there is NO study out there that she has seen to support this. She has not id'd anyone as being a future gay.
Wouldn't that be "sexually profiling"?

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Originally Posted by Anchorage
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Originally Posted by djs
It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.


How can you make a declarative statement stating that "God made them"? Then say, "I don't understand" being gay?
I can only expect someone like you to follow up by saying "its none of my business".
I disagree! Its all of our business when the GLBT zealots tell us what we can say, think and act. Then they politic for their healthcare needs and make the heterosexuals pay for their lifestyle. They have subverted the meaning of marriage which is leading to other lifestyle arrangments which proceed to tear down societal standards. But I guess you wouldn't understand this.


Now that is an issue I do have. The political power of it all. Equal is equal, and the zealots are not satisfied with that.


Well, I'm encouraged you said that. These same people who parade their lifestyles on their sleeves, dress, tattoos and sub culture preach to us to be open minded & accepting.
Yet the first time someone says something mildly controversial, these people unleash their frenzied attack.
I guess what's good for the gay isn't good for the heterosexual.

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Let me pose one question here. Why does the gay lifestyle have as its overriding companion, a similar political belief system which is decidedly liberal/socialist? I know there are a few conservative gays but they are in the 1% minority.
If you accept my premise, how is that linked to a medical condition - such as a hormonal imbalance? Is there a tail wagging the dog here?


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I wonder what kind of health care they have in Uganda? Well, on second thought, never mind.
Uganda used to have the world's highest rate of AIDS. They've dropped dramatically since they cracked down on queers.


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It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay pedophiles or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.


Same argument, eh.

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So why would someone choose to be homosexual, knowing what kind of problems it could mean for them? The men in prison thing is not a good example. You throw monsters in a cage together and anything can happen. I have a good friend that teaches grades 1-2. She said even at that age she can almost always tell with kids if they are gay. Many of them come from God fearing, hard working, hunting and fishing families. Maybe its the mercury in the fish huh?



I am not sure they do choose in the sense of a conscious choice among alternatives with knowledge of the consequences. But whether they choose in some undefined sense, is not the same as whether their behavior is determined by physiological factors. A child may not control the environmental factors (such as a child's relationship with his father) that might increase the probability of a homosexual outcome for the child, but that does not mean that if those factors militate in favor of a homosexual outcome, that the child's behavior is determined for the child--that it is beyond the child's control. Its still a decision, much like the decision whether to become an alcoholic. We might as well ask why do people choose to commit crime when they know the probability of detection is virtually certain? Why do people with high blood pressure and heart disease continue to over-eat? Why do some fathers beat their children even though they know it harms the child emotionally and physically. People choose to do things all the time that they know are wrong.

It is interesting that most homosexual men have very strained relationships with their fathers and overly close bonds with their mothers. Additionally, I think the research shows that homosexuals experience psychic and emotional distress independent of whether they live in accepting environs. The distress is intimately bound up with being a homosexual; it has nothing to do with negative societal sanction.

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I will add Uganda to the list of where to move to when the USA turns into the chithole its fast becoming. Let all the bone-smugglers have it! Just look at how great a job the bone-smuggling Governor of CA is doing!


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So why would someone choose to be homosexual, knowing what kind of problems it could mean for them? The men in prison thing is not a good example. You throw monsters in a cage together and anything can happen. I have a good friend that teaches grades 1-2. She said even at that age she can almost always tell with kids if they are gay. Many of them come from God fearing, hard working, hunting and fishing families. Maybe its the mercury in the fish huh?



I am not sure they do choose in the sense of a conscious choice among alternatives with knowledge of the consequences. But whether they choose in some undefined sense, is not the same as whether their behavior is determined by physiological factors. A child may not control the environmental factors (such as a child's relationship with his father) that might increase the probability of a homosexual outcome for the child, but that does not mean that if those factors militate in favor of a homosexual outcome, that the child's behavior is determined for the child--that it is beyond the child's control. Its still a decision, much like the decision whether to become an alcoholic. We might as well ask why do people choose to commit crime when they know the probability of detection is virtually certain? Why do people with high blood pressure and heart disease continue to over-eat? Why do some fathers beat their children even though they know it harms the child emotionally and physically. People choose to do things all the time that they know are wrong.

It is interesting that most homosexual men have very strained relationships with their fathers and overly close bonds with their mothers. Additionally, I think the research shows that homosexuals experience psychic and emotional distress independent of whether they live in accepting environs. The distress is intimately bound up with being a homosexual; it has nothing to do with negative societal sanction.



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Originally Posted by RobJordan
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So why would someone choose to be homosexual, knowing what kind of problems it could mean for them? The men in prison thing is not a good example. You throw monsters in a cage together and anything can happen. I have a good friend that teaches grades 1-2. She said even at that age she can almost always tell with kids if they are gay. Many of them come from God fearing, hard working, hunting and fishing families. Maybe its the mercury in the fish huh?



I am not sure they do choose in the sense of a conscious choice among alternatives with knowledge of the consequences. But whether they choose in some undefined sense, is not the same as whether their behavior is determined by physiological factors. A child may not control the environmental factors (such as a child's relationship with his father) that might increase the probability of a homosexual outcome for the child, but that does not mean that if those factors militate in favor of a homosexual outcome, that the child's behavior is determined for the child--that it is beyond the child's control. Its still a decision, much like the decision whether to become an alcoholic. We might as well ask why do people choose to commit crime when they know the probability of detection is virtually certain? Why do people with high blood pressure and heart disease continue to over-eat? Why do some fathers beat their children even though they know it harms the child emotionally and physically. People choose to do things all the time that they know are wrong.

It is interesting that most homosexual men have very strained relationships with their fathers and overly close bonds with their mothers. Additionally, I think the research shows that homosexuals experience psychic and emotional distress independent of whether they live in accepting environs. The distress is intimately bound up with being a homosexual; it has nothing to do with negative societal sanction.


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Originally Posted by Anchorage
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It's just the way God made them. I don't understand being gay or, what makes them this way, but it's none of my business.



I don't believe god made them that way. I think its a sad by product of our society



You mean our society since the beginning of mankind right? Gay men and women are not some new thing ya know. Its interesting to hear folks that believe being gay is just a choice someone decides to make at some point in their lives. At least the earth is still flat anyways.


Have you always been gay????


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[ [/quote]Look I got a step son thats gay , yes he is responsible, a good person as a person . but he is still sick. I will help him with some things in life. like any of the other kids. But he will dress appropriately when around us and NONE of his F..A..G buddies will ever be in our hous or on our property he learned that long ago , for the recored he was [bleep] up in the head long before I meet his mother [/quote]

With an attitude like that I think he would prefer that you not help him out in any way!

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