Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Canada - US Softwood deal is a total sellout!!!

Gotta ditto John G on this one. 80 cents on the dollar recovery of the world's least enforceable court ruling is amazing to me. Cash the check, boys.

Looks to me like Harper's realpolitik and Emerson's smugly pragmatic walk has beaten Martin's cheapshot talk by 4 billion. Fair? In knife fights and international trade?

kutenay's suggestion of a toll on the Alcan tickles me. That would be fun, and fair (depending on what factors you allow into the fairness equation).

Alas, the only problem in a tit for tat war between Canada and the US is it is a total no win ultimately for Canada.

AwwRight Kutenay;

Now that you are aiming your little lazer pointer at "corporate ripoff" let's just take a moment and think..........


I think most of these horrible corporations of which you speak are publicly held, do you agree with that ?

I think these corporations are ran by executives who are hired by the board of directors, do you agree with that ?

I think the directors are elected by the shareholders, do you agree with that ?

I think the shareholders want as much return on their investment as they can get, so they vote in directors who will hire very efficient/agressive executives who will either show strong growth/profits, or be replaced........

I think the shareholders might be willing to overlook a few things their own corporation does to keep pace, after all, it's happening everywhere..........

I also think many of the shareholders do not even keep track of what their corporation does........as long as their returns are good......

I think sometimes shareholders bitch about corporate greed ruining their life, without understanding that they might be talking about their own corporation ! How many people know exactly what is in their mutual funds, how many people vote to make less on their retirement accounts to promote better stewardship of our planet ?

Art-
Good points regarding the true total cost of converting gas to a salable product. The whole idea of land-leases to "oil" companies is for some compensation to the state and allowing the oil comps to either sell the raw resource or sell a product from the resource. The process has you and me out of it right from the start. Since Agrium exists, and closing or shrinking it affects my community, neighbors, friends, schools etc, I'm in favor of bringing slope gas to the peninsula--Nort Roaders not withstanding. I also think that's a better idea than Mac River, Alcan or Valdez.

In doing that there will be gas available for both of us to heat our homes. I don't look favorably at rationing gas to my home. The price, like all HC fuels will likely stay high. One reason I'm cutting my consumption by using more wood then past years.

Providing nat gas for generations in the state could have been done with 2-3 inlet rigs (my guess) if that was the intention. A citizen co-op could have provided us with free gasoline from Prudhoe too I suppose.

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